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Old 11-25-2005, 12:09 AM
HoldEmKillah HoldEmKillah is offline
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Default 5/10 Prelfop push w/AK

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

SB ($458.75)
BB ($599)
UTG ($994.75)
MP ($341)
CO ($995)
Hero ($1047.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
UTG calls $10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $35</font>, Hero calls $35, SB (poster) calls $30, BB calls $25, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $60</font>, CO calls $25, Hero calls $1012.50 (All-In)
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Old 11-25-2005, 12:17 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 Prelfop push w/AK

Any reads at all on UTG? I think that makes or breaks this move. Actually, I don't really like it regardless. Why not just reraise the first time around?
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Old 11-25-2005, 12:23 AM
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Any reads at all on UTG? I think that makes or breaks this move. Actually, I don't really like it regardless. Why not just reraise the first time around?

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cause now there's $170 in the pot to steal now, not $70. And no particular read on UTG except he's 48/5 and this mini-limp-reraise is completely donkish and weak to me.
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Old 11-25-2005, 12:23 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 Prelfop push w/AK

If i understand it correctly then you are representing a second high low against an UTG raiser that without any other read seems to be holding a monster. Brave move.

Edit: that was before i read your post that he was a donk..
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Old 11-25-2005, 01:31 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 Prelfop push w/AK

He limps re-raises 4 people, can you say ACES? Although $60 is donkish but consistent with Aces.
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Old 11-25-2005, 02:24 AM
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Any reads at all on UTG? I think that makes or breaks this move. Actually, I don't really like it regardless. Why not just reraise the first time around?

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cause now there's $170 in the pot to steal now, not $70. And no particular read on UTG except he's 48/5 and this mini-limp-reraise is completely donkish and weak to me.

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Donkish, yes. Weak, not necessarily.

I hate it. You don't get calls from hands you beat, and he's often got you crushed.
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Old 11-25-2005, 10:48 AM
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I hate it. You don't get calls from hands you beat, and he's often got you crushed.

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Old 11-25-2005, 10:53 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 Prelfop push w/AK

The pot is pretty small and he will not call you with AQ unless he's a complete donk. Can't see this be EV+ in any way at all.
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Old 11-25-2005, 10:54 AM
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He limps re-raises 4 people, can you say ACES? Although $60 is donkish but consistent with Aces.

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I think it's more likely a mid to low pair or sc. If he wanted to limp rr, he wouldn't rr the MINIMUM. It looks like a pot building hand to me.
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Old 11-25-2005, 01:27 PM
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He limps re-raises 4 people, can you say ACES? Although $60 is donkish but consistent with Aces.

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I think it's more likely a mid to low pair or sc. If he wanted to limp rr, he wouldn't rr the MINIMUM. It looks like a pot building hand to me.

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Regardless of what he has, stealing $170 by risking 10x isn't good poker unless we've seen him call something with AQo or worse.

Re-raise now if you wish or muck, both are better than pushing.
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