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Old 10-21-2005, 03:45 PM
Aviston Aviston is offline
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Default KK vs turn donk...

Absolutely zero reads:

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Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero ...?
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Old 10-21-2005, 03:47 PM
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Default Re: KK vs turn donk...

I fold.
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Old 10-21-2005, 03:48 PM
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Default Re: KK vs turn donk...

Calldown HU. Raise here as we have a 3rd player to worry about who could very well have 5 outs. If the board were AJ33 or something I would just calldown here as well.
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Old 10-21-2005, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: KK vs turn donk...

What can we expect to see the donk bettor holding?
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Old 10-21-2005, 04:05 PM
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Default Re: KK vs turn donk...

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What can we expect to see the donk bettor holding?

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I have a hard time imagining he has anything other than an Ax hand here. If the flop had been a dud against my preflop raise, I could see him donkbetting any piece perhaps figuring the flop might've missed me.
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Old 10-21-2005, 04:10 PM
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Default Re: KK vs turn donk...

I call down and make a note of what he has and how he played it. I want to put him on a weak A, a likely aces up. A stronger A probably would have check-raised you.
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Old 10-21-2005, 04:13 PM
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Default Re: KK vs turn donk...

Raise and check behind (UI) on the river after folding the BB.
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Old 10-21-2005, 04:28 PM
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Default Re: KK vs turn donk...

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Raise and check behind (UI) on the river after folding the BB.

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Not a bad line at all. Can we fold to a 3-bet?
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Old 10-21-2005, 04:32 PM
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Default Re: KK vs turn donk...

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Raise and check behind (UI) on the river after folding the BB.

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Not a bad line at all. Can we fold to a 3-bet?

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what do you think? (hint: you're probably right)
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Old 10-21-2005, 04:37 PM
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Default Re: KK vs turn donk...

Well, what I think is that if we can fold to a 3 bet (which I believe we can) then I like the line. Otherwise, I hate it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].
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