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Old 08-24-2005, 09:48 PM
TheRempel TheRempel is offline
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Default AAQQ, turned second set on KQTX board

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Hero ($99)
CO ($37.70)
Button ($124.80)
SB ($19.50)
BB ($40.75)
UTG ($36.60)
MP1 ($63.60)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $3</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $10, SB calls $9.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $7.

Flop: ($41) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, Button calls $20, SB calls $9.50 (All-In), UTG folds.

Turn: ($90.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero ?</font>
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Old 08-24-2005, 10:35 PM
Tilt Tilt is offline
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Default Re: AAQQ, turned second set on KQTX board

I hate hands like these.

Do you have any reads? Whats his preflop raising range? Could he have made that raise and flop call with 6789, or AdKdTx? Or a double pair like TT88?

I think you are ahead at least as often you are behind. So with the pot offering you odds to play as though you were ahead, I would bet 1/3 - 1/2 the pot. No sense in pushing all-in to chase a weaker hand out only to find the all-in player has the nuts. You'll have to call a push over the top if you take that line.
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Old 08-24-2005, 10:36 PM
Eric P Eric P is offline
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Default Re: AAQQ, turned second set on KQTX board

pot, all-in. no question.
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Old 08-24-2005, 10:59 PM
TheRempel TheRempel is offline
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Default Re: AAQQ, turned second set on KQTX board

I ended up betting $30 on the turn, thinking that it's somewhat unlikely anybody had a hand as strong a JQA or JQ9, given that I had two of the queens and two of the aces covered. If someone called my flop bet with a naked AJ (there is no reasonable hand that they would just call the flop with KTJQ, AKTJ, etc, etc all would have most likely raised the flop).

The villain raised me all in, the river was a brick, and he took it down with Js 9c As 6c. He cold-called a 1/2 pot size bet for 1/6 of his stack with a bad double gutter on a two-flush board.

I think a better move would have been to push the turn but I don't feel bad about the way I played it. I can't really justify pushing any harder on the flop.
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Old 08-25-2005, 01:54 PM
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Default Re: AAQQ, turned second set on KQTX board

is this a disguised bad beat [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

i just push the turn FWIW.
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Old 08-25-2005, 04:53 PM
TheRempel TheRempel is offline
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Default Re: AAQQ, turned second set on KQTX board

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is this a disguised bad beat

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Yeah, a little bit. During the hand I could only think of two plays - a bet big enough that's going to pot commit me anyway, or simply pushing the turn. I was wondering if there was a turn line I hadn't considered.
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