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Old 09-11-2005, 09:36 PM
Larimani Larimani is offline
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Default Re: QQ-hand.

You seem to be a very good player. Why do you play these low limits?
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Old 09-11-2005, 09:39 PM
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Default Re: QQ-hand.

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You seem to be a very good player. Why do you play these low limits?

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Thank you. I like to move up slowly. I played 100k hands at the 50s, so now I only have 85k hands left at the 100s [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img].
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Old 09-11-2005, 09:42 PM
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Default Re: QQ-hand.

I'm betting the flop.

What does his river bet mean? Has he done it before? I probably call out of curiosity, but the question is really just how often he's pure bluffing. If that exceeds 25%, then call. If not, fold.
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Old 09-11-2005, 09:45 PM
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Yeah, stay away from the NL$200. We don't want you there [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

EDIT: Doesn't matter much, sinse you play full ring. You planning on converting?
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Old 09-11-2005, 09:49 PM
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I'm betting the flop.



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Why?
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Old 09-11-2005, 09:53 PM
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Default Re: QQ-hand.

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Why?

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What were you going to do if he bet after you check, and how does this define his hand any better than if you just led out?
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Old 09-11-2005, 09:57 PM
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Why?

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What were you going to do if he bet after you check, and how does this define his hand any better than if you just led out?

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I have position. Also, there are more important things in this situation than defining his hand. Let's say I bet, he calls and checks the turn. I am as clueless of his holding as I was on the flop, and I have just made the pot bigger w/ a marginal and very tricky to play holding.

EDIT: or even if I bet, and he raises, how does that define his hand?
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Old 09-11-2005, 10:01 PM
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Default Re: QQ-hand.

Sorry, Kongo, didn't realize you had position.

I'm still betting here though. I think betting out defines his hand pretty well. If he check-raises, I believe you can safely fold. If he calls, I'm also betting the turn. If he calls that, then I'm going to check behind on a non-spade river.

I wonder what you should do if the river is the 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and he checks to you. Did you think about that at all?
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Old 09-11-2005, 10:04 PM
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Sorry, Kongo, didn't realize you had position.

I'm still betting here though. I think betting out defines his hand pretty well. If he check-raises, I believe you can safely fold. If he calls, I'm also betting the turn. If he calls that, then I'm going to check behind on a non-spade river.

I wonder what you should do if the river is the 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and he checks to you. Did you think about that at all?

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I don't think let's say a check-min.raise on the flop from his part puts me to a very easy decision. Basically, I'd like to avoid that situation, something that is done by not betting the flop. Check my previous post in this thread for various postivie aspects of checking this flop.
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Old 09-11-2005, 10:36 PM
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Default Re: QQ-hand.

why would villain bet 1/3 pot on the river? i would have to guess that he has a hand like AK here a lot of the time. it seems an odd way for him to play a smaller pair like TT and he would be betting a little more with a boat i'd imagine.
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