$109 Level 2, LAG-gy opponent, OOP and horrible flop (KK)

[rbear]

Being that there are a lot of aces in that range, do you think pushing (representing AK) is an effective way of getting villian off weaker ace?

[tewall]

Why not make a continuation bet? If the flop didn't hit Villain, which is likely, your bet is likely to be very scary. If he comes over the top, you're not in bad shape when you fold, but you've given yourself a decent chance to win the pot.

[tigerite]

That's what I did, but I didn't fold the cont bet. The problem is against a LAG, in my opinion, this is going to be a naked heart or some other crap so often, I find it very hard to lay it down. Now if it had been a rainbow board, that's very different..

[tewall]

I think a smaller CB would be fine, like 60% or so of the flop. This should be large enough to be scary for the other guy, but is small enough that you can get away from your hand. If your plan is to call him if he goes over the top, then that's an optimal size for that result too. If your plan is to go to the felt with the hand, a bet like this is better than pushing as you're much more likely to get all in as a favorite. If your plan is to take a shot at the pot without committing yourself, you have that option too.

Pushing pre-flop seems fine too. The way you played is likely higher EV than just pushing, but probably not by much. It's a way of playing that gives your a chance of doubling up without much risk, and if you win the pot right away, that's OK too. Less volatility and more clear-cut. Especially if you're multi-tabling giving up a little EV for clarity seems sensible.

[J-Lo]

I push this preflop, the crap that calls you is ASTOUNDING (at $55's), and i'd imagine the $109s still have ALOT of players callin' w/ AJ and 22.

To the perosn that said u win more by raising to 345 than pushing:

Think about the % of hands he will call your push with, and your edge. 8%

Think the number of times an A flops and he has an A (1/6)-- you make a ~300 continuation bet, and fold.

Think the number of times he compeltely misses, and folds to you continuation bet.

How often will he hit a hand that u beat, or not hit and bluff?

I think pushing is the way to go.

[bigt439]

I think checking is the play. Pushing or folding is your call. I haven't really added a whole lot to this thread, but that is what I would do. Feel will determine whether pushing or folding is better, but I don't think there's a huge EV discrepancy between the two.