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Flopped set on a suited flop: Cap of fold?
What do you think? I know not to call three cold on the flop. Was this play more Ed Miller or Lee Jones? All comments are appreciated.
Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (8 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is Button with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks, Flop: (5 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(5 players)</font> <font color="CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, Hero folds, SB calls, BB calls. Turn: (7 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">CO raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls. River: (13 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, <font color="CC3333">CO bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls. Final Pot: 16 BB <font color="green">Main Pot: 16 BB, between SB, BB and CO.</font> |
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Re: Flopped set on a suited flop: Cap of fold?
I think you made the right play here. With a bet and TWO raises in front of you, you have to assume someone has flopped a flush, unless you are at a table full of loose and aggressive players. At this point you have very little invested in the pot. It's always tough to laydown a set, but here I think you have to get out and save your money.
That being said, it wouldn't be a terrible move to cap it here because even if someone does have a flush, you still have 7 outs to make a full house or quads. And it's possible that you are up against naked A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and two pair or something like that. It all depends on your style of play and your read on the other players. Personally, I would do exactly what you did. |
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Re: Flopped set on a suited flop: Cap of fold?
This fold is HORRIBLE. Even if you do not have the best hand, you will make a boat or quads more than 30% of the time, and will get paid off shitloads when you do. You should be capping for value, not folding.
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Re: Flopped set on a suited flop: Cap of fold?
Nate said it, you should read it.
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Re: Flopped set on a suited flop: Cap of fold?
Ouch. Thanks for being honest guys. This isn't much of an excuse, but this was actually my third set in about 200 hands and I dropped big pots with the first two. I wasn't even thinking about my boat outs because I was positive the board wouldn't pair. I didn't have any reads, but through my first few hands at the table it looked typical party loose passive, so I didn't think anybody would jam this much with a single diamond. I guess I should have bit my lip and capped the sucker.
I'll save the results for now so that the morning crew can give me more of the berating that I deserve. Anybody have any guesses on the villan's hands? |
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Re: Flopped set on a suited flop: Cap of fold?
You probably had the best hand.
I put CO on a set of deuces, the other guys on 2pair or pair flush combos. If you never folded a set you would not be way off. |
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Re: Flopped set on a suited flop: Cap of fold?
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I put CO on a set of deuces, the other guys on 2pair or pair flush combos. [/ QUOTE ] The old put them all on something I can beat theory ... excellent. |
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Re: Flopped set on a suited flop: Cap of fold?
When I flop a set I tend to put my opponents on something I can beat, maybe you are much smarter than me though.
TT would probably raise preflop. Flopped flushes are extremely rare, even given the flop action. |
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Re: Flopped set on a suited flop: Cap of fold?
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I'll save the results for now so that the morning crew can give me more of the berating that I deserve. Anybody have any guesses on the villan's hands? [/ QUOTE ] I'll guess roughly 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. |
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Re: Flopped set on a suited flop: Cap of fold?
"I'll save the results for now so that the morning crew can give me more of the berating that I deserve."
Morning crew is here - Absolutely terrible fold! Call or cap, probably doesn't matter much. My guess is that there will be some major chilling out on the turn. You should be able to see the river for only 1 BB if you don't fill. |
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