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Old 06-05-2005, 04:15 PM
Fnord Fnord is offline
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Default Chrome, Clarkmeister and inducing a 3-bet (lc)

I wasn't sure he was a 2+2er at the time, but the stats fit the bill, so I figured I'd go for it...

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Preflop: Fnord is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Fnord raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB (ChromePony) calls, CO calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">ChromePony bets</font>, CO folds, Fnord calls.

Turn: (4.16 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">ChromePony bets</font>, Fnord calls.

River: (6.16 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">ChromePony bets</font>, Fnord thinks.... Fnord says "Clarkmeister?", <font color="#CC3333">Fnord raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">ChromePony 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Fnord caps</font>, ChromePony calls.

Final Pot: 14.16 BB

Results:
ChromePony has Qd Ac (flush, ace high).
Fnord has Kd Js (flush, ace high).
Outcome: Fnord wins 14.16 BB.
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Old 06-05-2005, 04:25 PM
ChromePony ChromePony is offline
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Default Re: Chrome, Clarkmeister and inducing a 3-bet (lc)

You suck out good you bastard. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 06-05-2005, 04:29 PM
Fnord Fnord is offline
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Default Re: Chrome, Clarkmeister and inducing a 3-bet (lc)

Me give g00t sucky sucky.

Why did you lead the flop?
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Old 06-05-2005, 05:06 PM
private joker private joker is offline
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Default Re: Chrome, Clarkmeister and inducing a 3-bet (lc)

I don't think you can call a cap without the K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. I don't like the river play here by CP.
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Old 06-05-2005, 05:12 PM
Fnord Fnord is offline
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Default Re: Chrome, Clarkmeister and inducing a 3-bet (lc)

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I don't think you can call a cap without the K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. I don't like the river play here by CP.

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13:1 vs an unknown the second nut isn't good enough? Even to look me up? Then again, I did mention Clarkmeister...
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Old 06-05-2005, 05:22 PM
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Default Re: Chrome, Clarkmeister and inducing a 3-bet (lc)

Clarkmeister needs to be OOP. Isn't the case here.

Also, clarkmeister involves some sort of hand with decent winning chances (i.e. TP, MP).
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Old 06-05-2005, 05:25 PM
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Default Re: Chrome, Clarkmeister and inducing a 3-bet (lc)

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13:1 vs an unknown the second nut isn't good enough? Even to look me up? Then again, I did mention Clarkmeister...

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If CP can't safely fold to your cap he has no business three-betting you here with the fifth nuts. (Granted the three straight flush possibilities are all highly unlikely.) I think three-betting is bad particularly in lightof your Clark coment. Probably he doesn't understand it, but if he does he can't expect a call if you were on a pure bluff raise but he will get popped by the nut flush.
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Old 06-05-2005, 05:26 PM
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Default Re: Chrome, Clarkmeister and inducing a 3-bet (lc)

After the cap I wasnt liking my chances, but Im having a real hard time laying down the second flush here. Anyone else think they could do it?
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Old 06-05-2005, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: Chrome, Clarkmeister and inducing a 3-bet (lc)

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Clarkmeister needs to be OOP. Isn't the case here.

Also, clarkmeister involves some sort of hand with decent winning chances (i.e. TP, MP).

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I think we're talking about this from Villain's point-of-view.
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Old 06-05-2005, 05:30 PM
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Default Re: Chrome, Clarkmeister and inducing a 3-bet (lc)

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After the cap I wasnt liking my chances, but Im having a real hard time laying down the second flush here. Anyone else think they could do it?

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Against another 2+2er, playing seriously or not, it's a tough laydown.
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