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#1
12-23-2005, 09:03 AM
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Re: First Things First, flop decision
Certainly not standard. This is one of those situations where you have to mix it up. Your play is reasonable to take some of the time. But realize you have gone out on a limb with aggression here.
I think it's reasonable to sometimes fold when he raises your flop bet. And sometimes call, and sometimes raise like you did. 
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#2
12-23-2005, 09:14 AM
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Re: First Things First, flop decision
Assuming you 3 bet the flop and bet the turn. If rags come, do you bet the river? My guess is that this player will be betting the river with hands that beat you, so it is probably best to bet. Do you guys think that the villian will be checking better hands on the river?
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#3
12-23-2005, 09:29 AM
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Re: First Things First, flop decision
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Assuming you 3 bet the flop and bet the turn. If rags come, do you bet the river? [/ QUOTE ] yeah, u pretty much have to. i like this just fine BTW...
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#4
12-23-2005, 02:47 PM
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Re: First Things First, flop decision
OK so noone hates the flop...
Turn comes another Q. I bet, opponent raises. Now I know the default play is to lay it down, but I cant help to think that he thinks that I think he has a queen and is trying to re-represent it with this card. Is it worth a few more big bets to see a showdown here?
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12-23-2005, 05:32 PM
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Re: First Things First, flop decision
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OK so noone hates the flop... Turn comes another Q. I bet, opponent raises. Now I know the default play is to lay it down, but I cant help to think that he thinks that I think he has a queen and is trying to re-represent it with this card. Is it worth a few more big bets to see a showdown here? [/ QUOTE ] the flop line is standard for me and i like it. basically what paluka said, however i think you should go with your reads regarding the turn. if you think he thinks you think he has a queen (no joke there) then i would go to the showdown. poker's about everything but the cards 
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#7
12-24-2005, 07:16 PM
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Re: First Things First, flop decision
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I bet, opponent raises. Now I know the default play is to lay it down, but I cant help to think that he thinks that I think he has a queen and is trying to re-represent it with this card. Is it worth a few more big bets to see a showdown here? [/ QUOTE ] I don't know your history or the texture of this game, but that seems like a very difficult read to make here. Has he made bluff-rebluffs like this before? Have you folded a similar situation before? He may be semibluffing with Ax clubs, does he like to semibluff the turn alot? What do you do if an ace or club hits the river? Is there any non-8 river you can bet? It may be worth the 2 more bets for showdown, but I would not commit to it with only the pokertracker X/Y/Z stats given in your original post. There's no law that loose-agg players can't hit trips (or a full house), and you've shown major strength on every street only to run into more resistance. Good luck, IronFly
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