A tough decision

suited_ace · #1 10-29-2005, 01:41 AM

This is the second hand of a $20+2.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP1 (t800)
Hero (t770)
MP3 (t800)
CO (t800)
Button (t770)
SB (t920)
BB (t770)
UTG (t770)
UTG+1 (t800)
UTG+2 (t800)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, UTG+2 calls t15, MP1 calls t15, Hero raises to t75, 4 folds, BB raises to t175, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, Hero calls t100.

The re-raise usually means JJ+, AK, but the hand I see here more often than any other is QQ and there's always those donks doing this w/ 88, even stuff like AQ, AJs.

Flop: (t390) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Good news: I hit TPTK. Bad news: Villain might just have hit trip queens. Maybe I'm seeing too many monsters under my bed, but in any case I'm checking behind here. Sort of a way ahead/way behind spot.

Turn: (t390) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets t125, Hero calls t125.

His bet doesn't mean much to me, there's a ton of hands that bet this turn. I'm torn between calling (which basically assumes I'm ahead) or raising to something like 320 and fold to a push. I ended up calling.

River: (t640) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets t225, Hero?

I'm almost folding this, but then again I have TPTK in a $22. What would you do? Why?

kyro · #2 10-29-2005, 01:47 AM

I posted a very similar hand to this one about 2 months ago or so. I remember it being very balanced on whether you wanted to push this flop or just call it down. I prefer to call this down. WA/WB situation here.

*Edit* It's a little different, but here's the hand I'm talking about. Read through it.

kyro wants to fold top two!

*Second Edit* I was reading through that thread and I found it amusing that this was before Megabet turned into a giant troll. He had very insightful things to say rather than "I'm better than you and stanzee sucks!" I miss that [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Seadood228 · #3 10-29-2005, 01:57 AM

I'd play it the same. There are more than enough donkeys in the 22s that will do this with TT to make this a pretty standard call on the river.

runner4life7 · #4 10-29-2005, 02:52 AM

i bet the flop thats just me, but pretty easy call on the river i think

suited_ace · #5 10-29-2005, 03:24 AM

Does anyone raise the river?

bigt439 · #6 10-29-2005, 01:04 PM

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Does anyone raise the river?

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... BARF. No don't ever do that. What calls you that you beat? And how many hands that you beat push over you. Do not do that.

I like how you played it though. I think pf with position and not that much back to you it's a good call. Might as well check the flop as it is essentially way ahead / way behind. Might as well let the junk take a shot or think they're good. Turn I don't like raising for the same reason. River just call. I think a fold is no good considering how much you've underepresented your hand and how much people suck.

Nice hand.

DMACM · #7 10-29-2005, 03:36 AM

Id push preflop, if not then Id definately push on this flop. I think your ahead here way more often then not.

kyro · #8 10-29-2005, 05:08 AM

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Id push preflop, if not then Id definately push on this flop. I think your ahead here way more often then not.

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Pushing PF is not good. The BB reraised you big. He COULD be a donk, but a good portion of the time he's either going to have a pocket pair in which case you're on the sucky side of a coinflip or crushed.

Pudge714 · #9 10-29-2005, 06:31 PM

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Id push preflop, if not then Id definately push on this flop. I think your ahead here way more often then not.

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Pushing PF is not good. The BB reraised you big. He COULD be a donk, but a good portion of the time he's either going to have a pocket pair in which case you're on the sucky side of a coinflip or crushed.

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I don't like pushing preflop, but I don't mind it, in 1 22 I think you will see AQ or get someone to fold enough to make it slightly +EV.

pokerlaw · #10 10-29-2005, 04:26 AM

did you think about reraising the turn?