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#53
12-15-2005, 07:22 AM
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Re: GIGABET.
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Is this a typo? Was it KK6 or K66? [/ QUOTE ] Definitely K66, per his Cardplayer video interview. Running the same three-street bluff with the board pairing kings would be insane. 
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#54
12-15-2005, 07:52 AM
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Re: WOW
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[ QUOTE ] Glynn Beebe raises to $36,000 from the cutoff position, Joe Cassidy reraises to $136,000, and Beebe moves all in for $391,000. Joe Cassidy calls, and Beebe shows Ks-Jd. But Cassidy shows -- the Hammer! 7h-2h! Beebe is a favorite to double up here. The flop comes Qc-5c-5s, and Beebe is still in the lead with king high. But the 7d falls on the turn, giving Cassidy the lead with a pair of sevens. Beebe needs a jack or a king to stay alive, but the river card is the 2d. Glynn Beebe is in shock as he is eliminated in 32nd place -- by seven-deuce. Joe Cassidy now has a huge lead with $1.85 million in chips. [/ QUOTE ] Cassidy has 2 mil in chips, and he just called 200K with A-high and called a 260K all-in reraise with 72. I think it's safe to say nobody is going to be playing back at him without a hand. [/ QUOTE ] Can this really be right??? I've heard/read of plenty of instances where the action and/or chip amounts has been screwed up heartily by cardplayer and other updates. Joe Cassidy has usually struck me as a pretty bright, good player in the few times I've seen him, and this is pretty inexplicable. My inclination is to say that something is inaccurate here.
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#55
12-15-2005, 11:20 AM
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Re: WOW
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[ QUOTE ] Glynn Beebe raises to $36,000 from the cutoff position, Joe Cassidy reraises to $136,000, and Beebe moves all in for $391,000. Joe Cassidy calls, and Beebe shows Ks-Jd. But Cassidy shows -- the Hammer! 7h-2h! Beebe is a favorite to double up here. The flop comes Qc-5c-5s, and Beebe is still in the lead with king high. But the 7d falls on the turn, giving Cassidy the lead with a pair of sevens. Beebe needs a jack or a king to stay alive, but the river card is the 2d. Glynn Beebe is in shock as he is eliminated in 32nd place -- by seven-deuce. Joe Cassidy now has a huge lead with $1.85 million in chips. [/ QUOTE ] Cassidy has 2 mil in chips, and he just called 200K with A-high and called a 260K all-in reraise with 72. I think it's safe to say nobody is going to be playing back at him without a hand. [/ QUOTE ] He was getting 2.2-1 pot odds, his cards were suited and likely live. If he folds in that situation, people won't know he had 72 and will think he is weak/tight and play back at him. Very easy call.
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#56
12-15-2005, 11:23 AM
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Re: GIGABET.
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I opened in the cutoff with AdQd, JJ Liu makes it 140k from the button. Blinds fold. Flop is K66 rainbow. I check, JJ Liu bets 100k, I call. Turn is offsuit 2, I bet 200k, JJ calls. River is another offsuit blank, I shove for the rest of her stack(about 600k more). She calls and opens KK. Earlier in the night, she folded KK face up on a flop of T66, with preflop action like this, phil laak opens utg for a standard raise. JJ Liu reraises big from the button, folds to Laak who calls. Laak leads the flop for 75k(with around 500k behind before the bet, I believe.) JJ raises Laak to 175k, with around 900k behind her. Laak shoves the rest of his stack in. She thinks for 10 minutes and then mucks KK face up. Side Note: I had never been caught bluffing by anyone at the table, and JJ had consistently shown that she respected my raises, she knew I was out of line alot preflop, but postflop, she never saw anything from me that could be construed as "way out of line." [/ QUOTE ] Looks like folding KK face up paid big dividends.
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#57
12-15-2005, 11:28 AM
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Re: GIGABET.
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I opened in the cutoff with AdQd, JJ Liu makes it 140k from the button. Blinds fold. Flop is K66 rainbow. I check, JJ Liu bets 100k, I call. Turn is offsuit 2, I bet 200k, JJ calls. River is another offsuit blank, I shove for the rest of her stack(about 600k more). She calls and opens KK. Earlier in the night, she folded KK face up on a flop of T66, with preflop action like this, phil laak opens utg for a standard raise. JJ Liu reraises big from the button, folds to Laak who calls. Laak leads the flop for 75k(with around 500k behind before the bet, I believe.) JJ raises Laak to 175k, with around 900k behind her. Laak shoves the rest of his stack in. She thinks for 10 minutes and then mucks KK face up. Side Note: I had never been caught bluffing by anyone at the table, and JJ had consistently shown that she respected my raises, she knew I was out of line alot preflop, but postflop, she never saw anything from me that could be construed as "way out of line." [/ QUOTE ] Just curious, when she called your 200k bet on the turn, did you get the impression at all that you were beat? Why did you move all in on the river, since you know you could only be called by a better hand?
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#58
12-15-2005, 11:34 AM
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Re: WOW
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Glynn Beebe raises to $36,000 from the cutoff position, Joe Cassidy reraises to $136,000, and Beebe moves all in for $391,000. Joe Cassidy calls, and Beebe shows Ks-Jd. But Cassidy shows -- the Hammer! 7h-2h! Beebe is a favorite to double up here. The flop comes Qc-5c-5s, and Beebe is still in the lead with king high. But the 7d falls on the turn, giving Cassidy the lead with a pair of sevens. Beebe needs a jack or a king to stay alive, but the river card is the 2d. Glynn Beebe is in shock as he is eliminated in 32nd place -- by seven-deuce. Joe Cassidy now has a huge lead with $1.85 million in chips. [/ QUOTE ] Cassidy has 2 mil in chips, and he just called 200K with A-high and called a 260K all-in reraise with 72. I think it's safe to say nobody is going to be playing back at him without a hand. [/ QUOTE ] He was getting 2.2-1 pot odds, his cards were suited and likely live. If he folds in that situation, people won't know he had 72 and will think he is weak/tight and play back at him. Very easy call. [/ QUOTE ] Very easy? 2.2-1 is not enough against a reasonable range of shoving hands here. It is close enough that the metagame probably justifies it, but I think you guys throw around phrases like "very easy call" a little too much.
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#59
12-15-2005, 11:52 AM
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Re: GIGABET.
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Why did you move all in on the river, since you know you could only be called by a better hand? [/ QUOTE ] I hate how people always say a bet is wrong because it can only be called by a better hand. IT'S CALLED A BLUFF. Sure if he gets called he's behind, but the point is he's hoping to not get called.
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#60
12-15-2005, 12:12 PM
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Re: WOW
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Glynn Beebe raises to $36,000 from the cutoff position, Joe Cassidy reraises to $136,000, and Beebe moves all in for $391,000. Joe Cassidy calls, and Beebe shows Ks-Jd. But Cassidy shows -- the Hammer! 7h-2h! Beebe is a favorite to double up here. The flop comes Qc-5c-5s, and Beebe is still in the lead with king high. But the 7d falls on the turn, giving Cassidy the lead with a pair of sevens. Beebe needs a jack or a king to stay alive, but the river card is the 2d. Glynn Beebe is in shock as he is eliminated in 32nd place -- by seven-deuce. Joe Cassidy now has a huge lead with $1.85 million in chips. [/ QUOTE ] Cassidy has 2 mil in chips, and he just called 200K with A-high and called a 260K all-in reraise with 72. I think it's safe to say nobody is going to be playing back at him without a hand. [/ QUOTE ] He was getting 2.2-1 pot odds, his cards were suited and likely live. If he folds in that situation, people won't know he had 72 and will think he is weak/tight and play back at him. Very easy call. [/ QUOTE ] Very easy? 2.2-1 is not enough against a reasonable range of shoving hands here. It is close enough that the metagame probably justifies it, but I think you guys throw around phrases like "very easy call" a little too much. [/ QUOTE ] This is button versus blinds. AKo is 1.6-1 against 72s. Obviously 72o is in worse shape against a pp. However, villain probably doesn't have a big hand. The KJo he had was typical. I am pretty sure 72s is better than 2.2-1 against villain's range, but even if it wasn't, this would still be an easy call. 72s is a good restealing hand, but I am sure part of purpose of playing it to begin with was psychological.
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