TPTK on draw-heavy board ($100 6-max)

snappo · #1 09-01-2005, 08:44 PM

BB is very loose.
UTG is semiloose and aggressive.

Comments on any street appreciated. Thanks.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Hero ($119.45)
Button ($61.15)
SB ($80)
BB ($74.45)
UTG ($96.50)
MP ($106.27)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, MP calls $1, Hero raises to $5, 2 folds, BB calls $4, UTG calls $4, MP folds.

Flop: ($16.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $6, Hero raises to $30, BB calls $30, UTG calls $24.

Turn: ($106.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG calls $61.50 (All-In), Hero calls $84.45 (All-In)

#2 09-01-2005, 09:10 PM

I know you are getting 2:1, but I think you are beat. Fold the turn. I don't mind your re-raise on the flop, but slow down after you get 2 callers. I think UTG is protecting a hand like KQ or a set. I doubt he is doing this with a worse K. Maybe he has a monster draw like J 10 diamonds, but more than likely, he is going to show you 2 2 or K Q.

RiverFenix · #3 09-01-2005, 09:17 PM

Do not make that call on the turn - you have no redraws and are probably way behind

snappo · #4 09-01-2005, 09:35 PM

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I know you are getting 2:1, but I think you are beat. Fold the turn. I don't mind your re-raise on the flop, but slow down after you get 2 callers. I think UTG is protecting a hand like KQ or a set. I doubt he is doing this with a worse K. Maybe he has a monster draw like J 10 diamonds, but more than likely, he is going to show you 2 2 or K Q.

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Why wouldn't UTG 3-bet the flop with those hands after BB overcalls?

tdomeski · #5 09-02-2005, 12:19 AM

this doesn't make sense for UTG to have you beat.

this doesn't make sense for BB to have you beat.

I think he just picked up a pair with his flush draw, good call.

#6 09-02-2005, 12:23 PM

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I know you are getting 2:1, but I think you are beat. Fold the turn. I don't mind your re-raise on the flop, but slow down after you get 2 callers. I think UTG is protecting a hand like KQ or a set. I doubt he is doing this with a worse K. Maybe he has a monster draw like J 10 diamonds, but more than likely, he is going to show you 2 2 or K Q.

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Why wouldn't UTG 3-bet the flop with those hands after BB overcalls?

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That's a very good point. I didn't consider that at all.

wdeadwyler · #7 09-02-2005, 12:34 PM

If UTG 3 bets, hero can easily get away from his tptk. By donking the turn hero is much more likely to call, as he did. i think you lost to qk or 22

Raven · #8 09-02-2005, 01:21 PM

I think that someone with a better hand than you would have reraise on the flop with all the action and the draw-heavy board, you have to go all-in here with th epot odds you have. I play it the same way. If someone is slowplaying, take a note.

snappo · #9 09-02-2005, 02:45 PM

BB has 3d4d . UTG has AdJd . Turn is offsuit 7 and MHIG. Just wanted to see if I got lucky with the results that they were on draws or if it was played ok. Thanks for all the replies.