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JackThree · #1 06-06-2005, 01:44 PM

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.5.
4 folds, MP2 calls, 1 fold, Hero (poster) checks, 1 fold, SB raises, BB calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (8 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, SB raises, BB folds, MP2 folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (6 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

River: (8 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10 BB

benkath1 · #2 06-06-2005, 01:50 PM

3 bet the flop. You have top pair with a good kicker. SB completing could have anything like J10 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]'s, A 7. You don't get much information on his hand by just calling.

You might try posting what you are thinking during the hand. Any info on SB?

Edit: oops, didn't see the check raise. I'm right there with you.

MrWookie47 · #3 06-06-2005, 01:51 PM

I play it like you did, but I think it's wrong against an unknown.

A check/raise after raising preflop usually means a monster - AA-JJ. If you weren't staring at 2 J's, I'd say that JJ was what was most likely. The flop bet is fine, however. If this guy was a known maniac, I'd call down, but otherwise, I fold the river. You have odds to chase 2pair/trips on the turn.

MrWookie47 · #4 06-06-2005, 01:56 PM

Ah, 3-betting for information...

What was your plan if you were capped? Fold on the spot when the pot is now huge? Fold the turn when you have odds to chase trips/2 pair? Hero is very likely behind here, and he doesn't need a cap to tell him that much.

Additionally, it takes a special kind of lag to raise JT and A7 preflop. It also takes a special kind of lag to go for a check/raise after raising preflop. It is even more special that he'd check/raise a flush draw in a manner that will blast out the field. With no such read supplied, I think we're looking at AA-JJ, maybe AJ.

benkath1 · #5 06-06-2005, 01:59 PM

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Ah, 3-betting for information...

What was your plan if you were capped? Fold on the spot when the pot is now huge? Fold the turn when you have odds to chase trips/2 pair? Hero is very likely behind here, and he doesn't need a cap to tell him that much.

Additionally, it takes a special kind of lag to raise JT and A7 preflop. It also takes a special kind of lag to go for a check/raise after raising preflop. It is even more special that he'd check/raise a flush draw in a manner that will blast out the field. With no such read supplied, I think we're looking at AA-JJ, maybe AJ.

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I didn't see the checkraise. I think he played it well after seeing your reply, and then the checkraise.

JackThree · #6 06-06-2005, 02:02 PM

thx for the input, turns out he was a maniac, i'm really tired, i didn't even notice the check raise til benkath1 mentioned it and i'm like what? he c/raised?

turns out he had Q9o i thanked him, and he bet all the way to the river with 23 offsuit on the next hand and lost to middle pair

well I will ask you a question then, if somehow everyone magically changes position postflop and i am oop on the guy and he raised my bet is calling down okay?

looks like i butchered the hand though hehe

benkath1 · #7 06-06-2005, 02:10 PM

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well I will ask you a question then, if somehow everyone magically changes position postflop and i am oop on the guy and he raised my bet is calling down okay?

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I think so. Might be even better. I would think I'm up against a worse hand from LP that SB. Of course I'd be a little more apt to 3 bet the flop and lead the turn if that were the case.

Fantam · #8 06-06-2005, 02:17 PM

Without a read on your opponent, I think calling down would have been OK if you were OOP.