Do you bluff here?

SlackerMcFly · #1 07-26-2005, 01:50 PM

Three handed in a $22 on PP. SB has been in a lot of hands recently, had pushed or folded from the button mostly. Button doesn't matter here.

I had been a little too tight the past couple of orbits, but had checked him down and won a mid-size pot with a marginal hand not long ago. Also, he folded when I pushed over the top on his last steal attempt.

Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 7: Villain ( $2748 )
Seat 9: Hero ( $3352 )
Seat 6: Button ( $1900 )
Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ]
Button folds.
Villain raises [450].
Hero calls [300].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ]
Villain checks.
Hero checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]
Villain bets [448].
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Hero calls [448].
** Dealing River ** [ A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ]
Villain bets [300].

Hero???

45suited · #2 07-26-2005, 01:52 PM

My question is why did you check the flop? I would've bet while I was likely ahead.

Scuba Chuck · #3 07-26-2005, 01:55 PM

Does villain normally lead out on the flop, to "buy" the pot. If that's the case, a check usually means he's hit it pretty good, like top pair or better. If not, I would have lead out on the flop since you have improved, and folded to a reraise. If villain calls, there's a good chance he's on a draw, so I bet out again on the turn, and then I'm done with the hand (unless I'm improving).

The way you played this hand makes it a little more difficult. Less time to gather information. Your hand is vulnerable, you've got a nice stack, let this one go.

Scuba

SlackerMcFly · #4 07-26-2005, 02:01 PM

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My question is why did you check the flop? I would've bet while I was likely ahead

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I felt that a bet on the flop would induce him to come over the top and I wanted to see a free card. The turn would help define his hand for me.

Slack

Scuba Chuck · #5 07-26-2005, 02:03 PM

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My question is why did you check the flop? I would've bet while I was likely ahead

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I felt that a bet on the flop would induce him to come over the top and I wanted to see a free card. The turn would help define his hand for me.

Slack

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I don't think so. Unless you already have some info on villain, as I suggested in my previous post, then I don't know what checking does to help "define" this hand for you. Betting the flop helps define the hand for you.

SlackerMcFly · #6 07-26-2005, 02:11 PM

Villain had tried to buy the pot a few times, but mostly checked. He almost always bet the turn with a bet like this regardless of his hand.

BTW, his turn bet convinced me that he had a weak K or A and had missed completely.

Scuba Chuck · #7 07-26-2005, 02:13 PM

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Villain had tried to buy the pot a few times, but mostly checked. He almost always bet the turn with a bet like this regardless of his hand.

BTW, his turn bet convinced me that he had a weak K or A and had missed completely.

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Well, you should go with your instincts, but I'm certain allin is not the best move. Why not just bet the pot, it's cheaper. Either way, I think there is a better way to play these hands, and check-check isn't so good, IMO.

The Don · #8 07-26-2005, 02:18 PM

I fold the river. I don't think that villian is laying down his hand especially if he caught his ace (which is likely) and because you are already ITM. I agree with everyone and bet the flop though. A substantial bet at that.

bkm · #9 07-26-2005, 03:59 PM

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I fold the river. I don't think that villian is laying down his hand especially if he caught his ace (which is likely) and because you are already ITM. I agree with everyone and bet the flop though. A substantial bet at that.

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Why fold the river when you just have to call 300?

SlackerMcFly · #10 07-26-2005, 04:50 PM

Absolutely zero chance that anyone folds here. 6:1 odds to call makes it an auto-call most of the time.

There is ~t2150 in the pot giving the winner a huge stack. The option then is call (we are beat by any Q, 7, 8, A, PP or flush) or represent a flush and push all-in to put his tourney life in jeopardy.

Since I had him on a weak K, Villain can ONLY call with a flush, that or fold.......

Slacker