Underaged Poker

[Phill S]

i find it amazing that people as young as 14 are playing on party for cash.

is this the downside to the constant TV exposure that has caused the boom in the game. if so someone point me to the exit sign.

i started playing at 17 for play chips on stars to learn the game (having had my interest tweeked by late night poker, a TV show shown here in england).

then at 18 i played for cash on ladbrokes (only site i could find back then thatd take my switch card). now at 20 im looking back at the big mistakes i made in poker when 18.

im personally against all underage gambling. if you want to do it, do so, im not gonna constantly tell you the perils of doing so, but dont brag about it on here.

i think if a moderator is reading this he may have a real moralistic problem in that he may have to report this to someone such as GA, or other help group (i know id consider it in their position). at only 14 now 15 im sure you dont realise the danger that gambling can have. id expect a PM if they do, and please take it seriously if they do.

if you insist on playing, id give you the advice of everyone and that is spend as much time learning the game as you do playing it. and if you do lose dont go out and sue everyone for being a party to your mistake.

finally, dont give up on academic work. i regretted not going to university when 18, so ive gone now at 20. if you wake up and realise youve pissed high school up the wall its not as easy as filling out a form and sending it to a school or college when you realise you wish youd kept your head in a book other than a 2+2 book.


my first, (probably) last and only older gambler to young underage gambler speech.

Phill

[daveymck]

Its interesting you class 18 as a kid, in the Uk they are classed as an adult. Over here you can play the lottery at 16 and recently a 16 year old won it (probably around the same amount in $US a fossilman, except with no tax to pay), I suspect that is more dangerous and screwed her life up more than the 16 year olds additcted to playing it and the dangerous scratch cards.

I see no differance between an 18 year old becoming addicted and a losing player and hitting the credit cards than a thrity somthing like me becoming addicted losing and hitting the credit cards, the fact is I will have a higher credit line and could run up a much bigger bill as well as having responsibilities of houses cars and children. We know that the majority of players are losers I dont think age comes into that.

In fact I susepct an 17/18 year old will put in the hours and will become a better player quicker than a lot of older people, having played fps games etc it was the young spotty kids who put in the time and effort to become the best.

You do need to be level headed and unemotional to succeed at this game but there are many players on here who are a lot older than 18 who go on tilt or let the game get the better of them emotionally, I think its a game for all ages.

[sillyarms]

Why is it immoral for a 14 year old to do something and perfectly fine for an adult to do the same thing?


silly

[dux]

In a few years time, you may win a seat to a live event, or want to win a seat. I assume you would have to present some form of identification to the poker site on arrival.

They may not let you take your seat (I certainly think it would be within their grounds to deny you).

And of course if you ever want to cashout instead of transferring money, you face the possibility of your ID being checked. At a site like Prima, this is likely from what I've heard. At Stars and Party, I would be amazed to be asked for ID.

[OldLearner]

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Why is it immoral for a 14 year old to do something and perfectly fine for an adult to do the same thing?

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The fact that you have to ask the question means you are not old enough to understand the answer.

[jrz1972]

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Why is it immoral for a 14 year old to do something and perfectly fine for an adult to do the same thing?


silly

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Because 14 year olds are stupid and need to be protected from themselves.

PM me and I'll send you my email address. In 16 years (when you hit 30), feel free to email me and tell me that you were just as smart and wise at 14 as you are at 30. Then I guess I'll stand corrected. Until then, drop the adolescent whining.

[pzhon]

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At Stars and Party, I would be amazed to be asked for ID.

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Actually, Party may freeze your cashout and force you to fill out a Preferred Member application and provide a lot of ID if you cash out a lot at once. I triggered that when I cashed out over $2k from Starluck casino, which is related to Party, and Pay-Pro support told me that this process might be triggered for poker at $3500.

[BigBaitsim (milo)]

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Why is it immoral for a 14 year old to do something and perfectly fine for an adult to do the same thing?


silly

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Because 14 year-olds (as a group) lack the emotional maturity to handle adult matters. SOME are certainly capable of adult decision-making. Problem is, you have to draw a line somewhere. In VA, we say that you can drive when you are 16, vote when you are 18 and drink when you are 21. Are some people responsible enough to gamble at age 14, or vote at age 12? Certainly. Are most? Doubtful.

Worse for gambling, a hallmark of adolescence is a false sense of adulthood and mastry. Teens BELEIVE they know more than they do, are smarter than they are, and have an illusion of invincibility. These three factors, common to teens, make gambling especially dangerous.

-Dr. Milo

[sillyarms]

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Because 14 year olds are stupid

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If you were to rephrase this to “Because most 14 year olds are stupid" I would agree with you. However poker is a game and over time the best player wins. Are adults automatically better at a game because they have life experience? If you were to play my 12 year old nephew in a game of chess you would see what I mean.

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Because 14 year-olds (as a group) lack the emotional maturity to handle adult matters. SOME are certainly capable of adult decision-making. Problem is, you have to draw a line somewhere. In VA, we say that you can drive when you are 16, vote when you are 18 and drink when you are 21. Are some people responsible enough to gamble at age 14, or vote at age 12? Certainly. Are most? Doubtful.

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and need to be protected from themselves

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Whose responsibility is it to protect them from themselves? The parents? Certainly. The government? Definitely not in my opinion. The casino? Again, not in my opinion. Is it moral to protect those who are inept at the expense of those who are perfectly capable? As Ben Franklin said, "Those who are willing to trade freedom for security deserve neither freedom nor security." I believe this stands true even if it is the freedom of 14 year olds after all are they not human beings too?

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PM me and I'll send you my email address. In 16 years (when you hit 30), feel free to email me and tell me that you were just as smart and wise at 14 as you are at 30. Then I guess I'll stand corrected.

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I agree. I am smarter now than I was then. But I know of a few 14 year olds who are just as smart and wise as a few of 30 year olds.

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Teens BELEIVE they know more than they do, are smarter than they are, and have an illusion of invincibility.

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This is also true in adults.

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The fact that you have to ask the question means you are not old enough to understand the answer.

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Until then, drop the adolescent whining

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I haven't been an adolescent in many years. Don't talk down to me. Not only is it rude, you're not smart and wise enough.

silly

[bonanz]

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