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Old 05-10-2005, 11:35 PM
Karak567 Karak567 is offline
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Default This is why min-raises are the bane of my poker game.

I can't stand them, they just SCREAM weakness to me. Often times when I see a play like this I think that some fish thinks he is making a play on me, and I am generally right. Agreed?

***** Hand History for Game 2030724833 *****
NL Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:12102115 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Tuesday, May 10, 23:32:11 EDT 2005
Table Table 11124 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: chou143 ( $620 )
Seat 2: erb4321 ( $795 )
Seat 3: Leroy1313 ( $770 )
Seat 4: juve68 ( $1135 )
Seat 6: brock26 ( $1170 )
Seat 7: russmac ( $710 )
Seat 8: Zniner99 ( $1425 )
Seat 9: amg069 ( $675 )
Seat 10: bigness5555 ( $700 )
Trny:12102115 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
There is no Small Blind in this hand as the Big Blind of the previous hand left the table.
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to erb4321 [ Ad Kc ]
russmac calls [15].
Zniner99 folds.
amg069 folds.
>You have options at Table 11044 Table!.
bigness5555 folds.
chou143 calls [15].
erb4321 raises [85].
Leroy1313 folds.
juve68 folds.
brock26 folds.
russmac calls [70].
chou143 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4h, Js, 4c ]
russmac checks.
erb4321 bets [200].
russmac raises [400].
>You have options at Table 11044 Table!.
>You have options at Table 11801 Table!.
>You have options at Table 11804 Table!.
Your time bank will become active in less than 20 seconds. If you do not want it to be used, please act now.
erb4321 is all-In [510]
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Old 05-10-2005, 11:45 PM
durron597 durron597 is offline
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Default Re: This is why min-raises are the bane of my poker game.

I've actually found that they often mean my opponent has the nuts, or close to it.

I've been laying this down on PokerRoom recently, but I don't know if you can with the shorter stacks on party.
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Old 05-10-2005, 11:56 PM
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Default Re: This is why min-raises are the bane of my poker game.

your flop bet is too large here IMO.
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Old 05-11-2005, 12:05 AM
gh9801 gh9801 is offline
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Default Re: This is why min-raises are the bane of my poker game.

on PP 20+2 games a fish minraising after a bunch of limpers preflop is usually weakness but a fish minraising postflop is usually strength
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Old 05-11-2005, 12:18 AM
Newt_Buggs Newt_Buggs is offline
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Default Re: This is why min-raises are the bane of my poker game.

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on PP 20+2 games a fish minraising after a bunch of limpers preflop is usually weakness but a fish minraising postflop is usually strength

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agreed:
***** Hand History for Game 2024803367 *****
100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12066974) - Mon May 09 21:04:53 EDT 2005
Table Table 11278 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: bradbaggett (1940)
Seat 2: NewtBuggs (715)
Seat 3: NewYorkJet22 (1130)
Seat 4: sand2494 (1015)
Seat 6: StubomAnn (490)
Seat 8: jim78910 (1250)
Seat 9: flash418 (1040)
Seat 10: KardKaptin (420)
bradbaggett posts small blind (50)
NewtBuggs posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to NewtBuggs [ Js, Qs ]
NewYorkJet22 folds.
sand2494 folds.
StubomAnn folds.
jim78910 folds.
flash418 folds.
KardKaptin folds.
bradbaggett raises (150) to 200
NewtBuggs raises (615) to 715
NewtBuggs is all-In.
bradbaggett folds.

I don't know if this is the right play in my example, but miniraises pf definitly seem weaker to me than on the flop. On the flop it is more likely to be a bet trying to sucker you in. Pf fish usually mini raise so that they can still get away from their hand.
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Old 05-11-2005, 12:25 AM
adanthar adanthar is offline
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Default Re: This is why min-raises are the bane of my poker game.

That's SB/BB...those minraises never mean anything. EP minraises and other various fishyness can be different.
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Old 05-11-2005, 12:59 AM
ChoicestHops ChoicestHops is offline
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Default Re: This is why min-raises are the bane of my poker game.

Well it can go either way. In my experience, alot of times a "mini raise" is when a player is trying to counter an aggressor to see if his pocket actually hit the flop or not.

Villain here probably put you on two high cards, and this flop most likely did not hit your hand, as it obviously did not. His mini-raise was to try to make you put a lay down, and I would have layed this hand down.
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Old 05-11-2005, 01:49 AM
Nick M Nick M is offline
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Default Re: This is why min-raises are the bane of my poker game.

agreed. I think 125 gets the point across...also I think the preflop raise is too much. I have never played on party so I am not how loose the calling is early, but I like to keep the pots as small as possible(preflop that is) while still letting the players know I have a good holding. I would have made it 60-70 preflop and bet this flop 2/3s of the pot. By keeping the pot small early, it helps me save chips if I have to take a stab and then get raised.
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