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Old 10-27-2005, 05:19 AM
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Default Re: Do I bet this flop with KK or just call? Or fold lol

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To continue discussion, I bet the pot. About $5.

Viper_Mike calls and dobosz calls.

Turn is A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. My heart drops.

What do you think my line is here? Dobosz checks to me.

Check fold? Anyone with an Ace knows I'm either a)playing another ace with possibly a higher kicker, but they will probably be inclined to call down or b)thinks I've got an underpair or possibly some type of flush.

Anyone with the flush probably isn't folding at this point since the pot is so big, even with the paired card.

I definately represented the flush on the flop. Do I continue and just push? If I do, I have 9 clubs(if no one else had any) and 1 more K that will likely give me the best hand unless someones two pair filled up. If they have a lower set(77 or 99) then my K would beat them.

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c/f to anything but a minidonkbet. You could now be drawing dead. And if you do see the river and hit your flush, be very careful. Don't go broke here even if you hit your flush.
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Old 10-27-2005, 05:20 AM
trumpman84 trumpman84 is offline
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Default Re: Do I bet this flop with KK or just call? Or fold lol

Well, I thought you had position in my last post, so that changes my view of the hand completely. I agree with a bet on the flop, but I'd probably bet a little smaller..about 2/3 pot. When you get called twice, I think you have to check the turn..you are probably up against both aces, or maybe an ace and a lower flush draw. When it gets bet, I'd call a small one around 1/3 the pot or less and fold to a big one. I don't think anyone's full here yet (I think two pair or a set raises that flop for protection/information), so I think you can still draw to your flush for a reasonable price.
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Old 10-27-2005, 05:26 AM
whittiphil whittiphil is offline
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Default Re: Do I bet this flop with KK or just call? Or fold lol

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I guess the converter site is down? Anyway I just sat down at this table and haven't even played a full orbit yet, so I have no reads on my opponents.

***** Hand History for Game 2935553252 *****
$25 NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, October 26, 18:51:52 EDT 2005
Table Table 65345 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: MahJongMan ( $10 )
Seat 4: joefridays ( $33.70 )
Seat 5: sordaddy ( $44.42 )
Seat 6: dobosz3 ( $24.10 )
Seat 7: Rover345 ( $19.60 )
Seat 8: J_Hero ( $22.75 )
Seat 9: Viper_Mike ( $40.85 )
Seat 10: tulsacard ( $30.35 )
Seat 2: Brack8 ( $10.90 )
Seat 3: Osicom ( $20 )
sordaddy posts small blind [$0.10].
dobosz3 posts big blind [$0.25].
Osicom posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to J_Hero [ K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
>You have options at Table 64959 Table!.
>You have options at Table 65552 Table!.
Rover345 calls [$0.25].
J_Hero raises [$1].
Viper_Mike calls [$1].
tulsacard folds.
MahJongMan folds.
Brack8 folds.
>You have options at Table 64959 Table!.
Osicom calls [$0.75].
joefridays folds.
sordaddy calls [$0.90].
dobosz3 folds.
>You have options at Table 68491 Table!.
Rover345 calls [$0.75].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ]
sordaddy checks.
Rover345 checks.
J_Hero ???

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I think a check is absolutely the right play. I think people who say bet are being ridiculous.. Idiots love to check raise their flopped flushes, take the gift you were given and check... then get allin when the club hits and he panics with his low flush.

Check, betting is asking for trouble.
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Old 10-27-2005, 05:29 AM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Default Re: Do I bet this flop with KK or just call? Or fold lol

Raise more preflop and bet something like 1/2 pot on the flop.
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Old 10-27-2005, 02:51 PM
ThaHero ThaHero is offline
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Default Re: Do I bet this flop with KK or just call? Or fold lol

Well I wisely checked, then lost my senses...

One guy bets the pot, about 15$. Guy in front calls. I consider my odds, thought it was maybe 3-1 or so, and just pushed for my remaining 1.75. Both call.

K comes on the river and saves my arse. Both players check it on the end.

One Villain shows 10 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. The other shows A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. I take down the pot but wondering if my call on the end was correct given the pot odds or should I have just folded?

The pot was $20 on the turn. He bet $15, the other guy called $15, so it's now $50. I have $16.75 left. A little over 3-1. Am I good(or do I get good) 3 times out of one here, based on the action?
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