99 in the SB (30/60)

mach3 · #1 05-09-2005, 02:32 PM

Nobody's waiting till the turn right?

Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, MP2 raises, 1 fold, CO calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets, CO folds, Hero raises, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls.

Turn: (8 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 calls.

River: (10 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 folds.

Final Pot: 11 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has 9c 9h (two pair, nines and twos).
Outcome: Hero wins 11 BB.

LarsVegas · #2 05-09-2005, 04:49 PM

This looks like a play I could have made, and lately I have found myself thinking maybe I am over-using marginal aggression.

I think checkraising 99 on a Q-8-2 board against a preflop raisor betting into five opponents, with 3 of these still in the hand at the point you checkraise, is streching it too far.

Of course, the rainbow, ragged nature of the board helps the checkraise-cause but not enough I think.

No matter what MP2 held, I think he played his hand pretty poorly.

lars

anuj · #3 05-09-2005, 05:06 PM

It seems like MP2 has some sort of Ace-King hand and has an extremely long fishing pole.

BreakfastBurrito · #4 05-09-2005, 05:36 PM

If MP2 had A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] do you still think he played it poorly? What should he have done differently?

LarsVegas · #5 05-10-2005, 07:40 AM

What A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] should consider doing differently:

- Not betting into five opponents with Ace-King on a Q-8-4 rainbow board.

- Raising the turn, when after betting the flop, he gets it headsup to the turn, albeit for two bets, this must be almost better than expected, he hits a very nice turn and could put severe pressure on all hands up to Queens with a mediocre kicker with a raise here. He will also get a free showdown which is not entirely worthless here I think.

- Paying off the river. The turn cards allows him to get to the river without much thought, now he's here with the nut pair of Deuces in a 11 big bet pot. The last one is of course debateable, but if his belief in AK in that low, it's not consistent with betting into five guys on the flop. I mean, is he hoping for five folds on the flop or two callers that will fold the turn??

lars

YoureToast · #6 05-10-2005, 09:52 AM

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If MP2 had A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] do you still think he played it poorly? What should he have done differently?

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check the flop

mach3 · #7 05-09-2005, 05:50 PM

Would you have just called Lars? What's your action on the turn?

LarsVegas · #8 05-10-2005, 07:32 AM

It's very close, and I would probably raise or fold myself. But probably close between all three options to be honest. I would probably have raised it, but I am in a phase where I am starting to second-guess plays excactly like that.

I think I have been pushing marginal edges to an extent where I need to revert back to playing slightly tighter and picking my situations and spots for betting and raising more selectively.

lars

lil feller · #9 05-09-2005, 05:08 PM

This flop check raise worked perfectly, if you get a cold caller or two you should probably give up.

Given that you didn't, the turn bet is perfect. After MP2 calls however, he probably has either JJ or AK. He'll call the river with JJ, probably won't w/ AK. Check/call the river, and give him a chance to bluff.

lf

steveyz · #10 05-09-2005, 05:20 PM

Flop is fine, turn is fine. Check-call the river. It's unlikely he's paying you off with a worse hand but might bluff with it and also might check through TT/JJ.