Missing Value? A9o

Andrew Fletcher · #1 12-08-2005, 01:12 AM

MP2 has gotten lucky and built a big stack. He's loose and makes bluffs at the wrong time. I am trying to see a lot of flops with him. I checked behind twice because I couldn't imagine what hands would call turn or river bets that I beat. Also didn't want to give him a chance to bluff me off the best hand. I'm wondering if I missed value?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP2 ($24.25)
Hero ($26.05)
Button ($9.95)
SB ($9.65)
BB ($44.60)
UTG ($10)
UTG+1 ($9)
MP1 ($9.40)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $0.2, Hero calls $0.20, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls $0.10.

Flop: ($0.75) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP2 bets $0.2, Hero raises to $1.1, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls $0.90.

Turn: ($2.95) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks.

River: ($2.95) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $2.95

DJ Sensei · #2 12-08-2005, 01:26 AM

Bet the turn. If not, bet the river. If the Q's helped him, he won't check them twice. Nor will he go for a river value checkraise after you slow down on the turn.

Morrek · #3 12-08-2005, 01:36 AM

I'd bet turn, check river. 2 draws out on the flop, and he's playing like some donks like to play draws (beting small then calling raise, then check)

Andrew Fletcher · #4 12-08-2005, 01:52 AM

What do you do if you bet turn and he calls? What if he leads the river?

What if he check raises you on the turn?

Morrek · #5 12-08-2005, 01:57 AM

A check-raise on the turn makes little sense... but I'd probably call it unless it was big (people generally raise way too small) since you are in position to take a free showdown on the river, or reevaluate if he bets again.
If he leads another Q river for a big bet I'd have to fold, but it is probably as scary for you as it is for him