2 hands to be reviewed. PP 2/4 hi/low

[zoidswallet]

I'm wondering, should I slow play this on 4th to keep Seat 2 in the hand?

7 Card Stud High-Low ($2/$4), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $1 (hand converter)

3rd Street - (1.00 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___brings-in
Seat 2: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 4: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 5: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 6: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 8: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds

4th Street - (3.00 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 2: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___calls___folds
Hero: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___raises___raises
Seat 4: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets___raises___calls

5th Street - (6.00 BB)

Hero: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 4: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets___calls

6th Street - (10.00 BB)

Hero: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 4: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___calls

River - (12.00 BB)

Hero: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 4: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] xx___checks___folds

Total pot: (12.00 BB)
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Should I reraise 6th street on this one? I'm showing 87, if Seat 2 has me dead locked he would have reraised. What do I do if Seat 2 reraises? He could either be telling me, "I've got your low deadlocked," or the other guy "I've got your kings beat."


7 Card Stud High-Low ($2/$4), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $1 (hand converter)

3rd Street - (0.88 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 2: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___brings-in
Seat 5: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 8: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls

4th Street - (2.88 SB)

Seat 2: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 8: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets

5th Street - (2.94 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 8: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls

6th Street - (5.94 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 8: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets

River - (8.94 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] xx___checks___folds
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 8: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] xx___checks___calls

Total pot: (10.94 BB)

Results:
Main Pot: $41.75 | Rake: $2

Hero: [ 5h 6h 7c 8s 5c 2d 4h ] [ LO: 7,6,5,4,2 | HI: a straight, four to eight -- 8s,7c,6h,5h,4h ]

[DeadMoneyOC]

1. Fold 3rd. Looks good other than that though...I would probably just bet 4th because check-raising might give away your hand to better players.

2. What is your read on seat 2? IF you think he/she is a mega donk then you should start pushing a little harder on 4th and 6th but other than that it looks ok. I like the call on 5th to make sure you dont lose the guy with open KKs. This is unless of course you think he will call two cold with his open Ks to the other guys open As. I think there are a couple of read dependent desicions in this hand.

[buffbrad54]

I agree with DeadMoney, fold 3rd. Not much value in split tens with a 7 kicker. You know you are only playing for half the pot and if anyone going low has an Ace in the hole, they can beat you if they catch another Ace. However you did catch your other 10 on fourth, so from there on out it looked good.

[zoidswallet]

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1. Fold 3rd. Looks good other than that though...I would probably just bet 4th because check-raising might give away your hand to better players.

2. What is your read on seat 2? IF you think he/she is a mega donk then you should start pushing a little harder on 4th and 6th but other than that it looks ok. I like the call on 5th to make sure you dont lose the guy with open KKs. This is unless of course you think he will call two cold with his open Ks to the other guys open As. I think there are a couple of read dependent desicions in this hand.

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1. This is really a fold? I disagree, and here's why, I'm only in until 5th anyways, if I don't trip up (or get some other help) by then, I'm gone, if I see someone else get 1 of the 2 remaining 10s, I'm gone. I like the hand because if I catch the 10, it can look like I caught bad going for a low. Unfortunately, I made it quite clear I didn't catch bad and that is why I'm incredibly dissapointed in how I played this one. It's not entirely my fault though, if I start jamming to build a pot on 5th instead of 4th, it looks like I caught my straight and I scare away the highs anyways.

Brad- Refer to what I said about playing til 5th street and give me your thoughts. Also to clarify, they're wired 10s, not split 10s, if they're split, I don't play them.

2. Yeah, I felt calling 5th was the best option. If Seat 8 has trips he'll reraise anyways, to get a feel for Seat 2. If I reraise first and he calls two cold, then Seat 2 probably reraises over the top of me, trying to get Seat 8 stuck in the middle. At that point I'm probably forced to play along, and we scare him away. I'm really surprised I scooped this, if Seat 8 didn't even have 2 pair on 5th (evident by his lack of full house after he caught the 3rd king), why is he calling Seat 2's aces? Plenty of people at the 2/4 on PP really cannot lay down anything. As far as my read on Seat 2, he wasn't a donk, he seemed to know right from wrong. I recognized that 6th was a brick for him, but I wasn't sure if I should start pushing. I think that calling was probably the best move. Seat 2 most likely has 2 pair, and 4 cards to a low. He's definitely going to see 7th and try to fill up or hit his low. No point in throwing extra money in on 6th because if Seat 8 fills up, and Seat 2 hits his low then (straight or no straight) I get caught in the middle.

After looking at hand 2 again, I'm very impressed with my play and I think it was flawless. My review of it is pretty great too. Feel free to deflate my ego though, by telling me otherwise. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]