Extracting Value with Top Set

quarkncover · #1 10-21-2005, 10:26 PM

60 hands with MP2 LAG 35.59/11.86/2.17

I had a hard time OOP here, against a LAG there is probably a better line to get all the chips in. Action on Turn? River and Results to Come. Hard time putting villain on hand here too 54-A5?? AJ-AK?? JJ-KK??[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Thanks!

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) converter

SB ($8.35)
BB ($31.55)
UTG ($24.75)
Hero ($28.05)
MP1 ($6.40)
MP2 ($38.30)
CO ($29.85)
Button ($14.85)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $1.75, 4 folds, UTG folds, Hero calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.10) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $1.75, MP2 raises to $5.5, Hero calls $3.75.

Turn: ($15.10) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $4.5, Hero ??

Hoopster81 · #2 10-21-2005, 10:30 PM

You gotta just call that turn now. Next time bet $4 on the flop, and if he raises you get it all-in.

#3 10-21-2005, 10:33 PM

As soon as that ace hits, I check call it down...straight and flush draws on the board, and he's betting in to you...reraise the flop

TrailofTears · #4 10-21-2005, 10:36 PM

Bet more on the flop. Then you can decide to 3-bet or CR turn, depending on what you prefer. I like a 3-bet since a lot of cards will come on the turn that are scare cards (more for him than for you).

-T

quarkncover · #5 10-21-2005, 10:38 PM

Villain Raised to 7x BB preflop, even though there are straight and flush draws present the only hand that would really worry me would be KQh or KJh, only hand I have seen villain raise this big preflop was shown down he had AQo and turned nut straight. Check-calling seems way too weak tight, if I call on turn what is my river play? C/C again??!!! Correct me if I'm wrong but I think a value/blocking bet is in line.

quarkncover · #6 10-21-2005, 10:40 PM

I like your line T, are you suggesting leading for a PSB on flop and maybe 1/2 pot or more on turn?

Isura · #7 10-21-2005, 10:41 PM

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60 hands with MP2 LAG 35.59/11.86/2.17

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That's not lag. You guys need to start understanding how to use these stats effectively.

quarkncover · #8 10-21-2005, 10:44 PM

Thx for the post Isura, I am just using some autorate rules I found in the forum, this is something I am definitely going to look into.

TrailofTears · #9 10-21-2005, 10:46 PM

Definitely at least 4 on the flop, maybe even an overbet (if I know villain is maniacal, as they tend to find that insulting). *Put yourself in villains place - You make a strong raise PF, board comes raggedy anne, and someone bets into you. Most players will raise this bet, as it could be made with so many hands, but you will certainly get a raise out of any overpair.*

Back to the real hand - Make a 3-bet that commits both you and villain to the hand. Hand over. No worrying about scare cards on the turn. No worrying about how to get your money in the rest of the way. Make the hand play out simply for you.

-T

TrailofTears · #10 10-21-2005, 10:48 PM

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60 hands with MP2 LAG 35.59/11.86/2.17

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That's not lag. You guys need to start understanding how to use these stats effectively.

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That's pretty laggy for full table.