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Old 12-23-2005, 04:42 PM
DrSavage DrSavage is offline
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Default Re: PokerStars & FPP\'s, Getting Screwed?

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In shorthanded limit games 10/20 and up what they offer is basically 13% rakeback once you reach Supernova. Nothing to write home about.
I'm very disappointed.

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To be fair you would probably need to calculate in the insane number of free rolls that will be avaialble on a weekly/monthly basis.

If my quick calculations are correct, once the SuperNova Free rolls start in April, PokerStars will be returning back to players well over 2 million dollars a year in free rolls. It is my understanding (hope) that these free rolls will have flat payouts, i.e., that is paying more places a decent amount and not so much at the top.

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I was hoping for some rewards for cash players, but it looks like the entire program is aimed at tournament players again. I don't care about freerolls because they are tournaments and tournaments are stupid.
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Old 12-23-2005, 06:10 PM
wmspringer wmspringer is offline
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Default Re: PokerStars & FPP\'s, Getting Screwed?

Did you happen to notice the TVs and monitors available?

Although, I'm thinking it'll take me forever to get enough points since it's easier to get them in cash games and I mostly play tournaments :-)
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Old 12-23-2005, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: PokerStars & FPP\'s, Getting Screwed?

It's kind of odd. It is much easier for a cash game player to earn FPPs than a tourney player but the rewards are heavily tilted towards tourney players.
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Old 12-23-2005, 07:01 PM
Unabridged Unabridged is offline
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Default Re: PokerStars & FPP\'s, Getting Screwed?

trash for low-mid NL/PL players
couldn't they at least keep track of fractional FPPs for pots with rake <$1
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Old 12-23-2005, 01:37 PM
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Default Re: PokerStars & FPP\'s, Getting Screwed?

Wow great stuff. This should really get ring game traffic up.
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:47 PM
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Default Re: PokerStars & FPP\'s, Getting Screwed?

If Stars changed the program so that we got a second FPP when the rake hit $3 I would definitely switch to stars. I'd probably be happy even if it was 1.5 FPP at $3, but as it is now it just doesn't seem worth it if you play games that normaly hit the max rake.
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Old 12-23-2005, 06:09 PM
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Default Re: PokerStars & FPP\'s, Getting Screwed?

Question here: Let's say you have accumulated the VIP points in the month, and when you spend them in the store or whatever, does that decrease your supernova status or is it just the accumulation of them that is needed? (ie will your vip points for the year fall if you spend them? or do you just need to acquire them?)
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Old 12-23-2005, 06:12 PM
Arnfinn Madsen Arnfinn Madsen is offline
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Default Re: PokerStars & FPP\'s, Getting Screwed?

Just accumulation.
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Old 12-24-2005, 12:29 AM
LotsOfOuts69 LotsOfOuts69 is offline
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Default Re: PokerStars & FPP\'s, Getting Screwed?

One other type of trade that could possibly happen, although not easily done, is of course allowing some player to use your account for a large buy in Pokerstars event (WCOOP or the big weekly tournaments), which you buy using FPPs, in trade for cash/W$/T$ at a discounted rate.

This of course is illegal, but step higher freerolls on Party have been traded in this manner.

You can still use your FPPs to buy into satellites for the weekly events, (and now that you can earn them at a higher rate, they become even more valuble), and then unregister for the T$.
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Old 12-24-2005, 12:57 AM
MicroBob MicroBob is offline
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Default Re: PokerStars & FPP\'s, Getting Screwed?

we are assuming that the ticket that you get for the higher events allows you to unregister for the T$.
But we don't know if they are giving some sort of a 'different' type of ticket that you can't trade in for T$.
It's uncertain and we shouldn't assume that it is the same as we it always has been
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