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Old 11-12-2005, 03:45 AM
SlyGuy SlyGuy is offline
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Default Poor?

This is what happens when i run badly.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG folds, MP calls.

Flop: (8.33 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.16 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 7.16 BB
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Old 11-12-2005, 04:08 AM
Stinkybeaver Stinkybeaver is offline
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Default Re: Poor?

READS..!!!

Anywho I'll be kind a happy when I sitback with my UI flushdraw and you fold the turn.

givin the preflop and flop line here theres a better chance that he has a K however I'm not folding this unless another overcard or a diamond hits.
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Old 11-12-2005, 04:31 AM
vinnox vinnox is offline
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Default Re: Poor?

Fold the flop or call down. Given his pf raise I would lean to a flop fold.
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Old 11-12-2005, 04:52 AM
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Default Re: Poor?

I'd fold the flop most likely if our opponent isn't a complete donk. He will occasionally play a FD like this, however he'll show you a K the majority of the time.
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Old 11-12-2005, 09:18 AM
BongRips BongRips is offline
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Default Re: Poor?

I call down if the player is even relatively aggro
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Old 11-12-2005, 09:22 AM
Spicymoose Spicymoose is offline
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Default Re: Poor?

Call down if he is pretty agro, fold the flop if he isn't. I don't see why you call the flop only to fold the turn.
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Old 11-12-2005, 09:25 AM
Cerril Cerril is offline
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Default Re: Poor?

I'd call the safe turn card and call any nonace river. MP could definitely have you beat, but he could very easily have a 9 or a draw (even something like TJ/JQ, especially if he has a diamond) or a big ace that missed. I don't think you're ahead but you're getting slightly better than 8:2 on a calldown, and I do think you're alright 25%. Having the Td adds a tiny fraction of equity against a possible flush draw as well, though that's not a huge thing.

If you do decide to fold this, no matter what he shows you, I'd be considering orbiting out and taking a break for 20 minutes or so if you are running bad. This sort of hand is demoralizing when you fold it. (it isn't thrilling if you play and lose, but that can be easier to shrug off as genuine bad luck - then you need to make sure your image isn't that of a loser)
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Old 11-12-2005, 09:27 AM
Cerril Cerril is offline
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Default Re: Poor?

Second this... Image is important but if you're running bad, saving bets is better. If I had to make this play twice at the same table I'd probably take a break though.
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Old 11-12-2005, 05:06 PM
TStoneMBD TStoneMBD is offline
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Default Re: Poor?

id 3bet the flop and bet the turn so you get to showdown for 1 less sb.
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Old 11-12-2005, 05:59 PM
imported_leader imported_leader is offline
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Default Re: Poor?

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id 3bet the flop

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call a cap fold the turn UI? Fold to a turn C/R?
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