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Old 03-09-2005, 06:20 PM
lorinda lorinda is offline
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Default Re: Common misconceptions. #1: Playing for first

So, Lorinda, will you expose your ITM results on the $33s?

At some point when I'm more confident yes.

I've mentioned numbers before and ended up backtracking, so I'll wait a while this time.

Lori
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Old 03-09-2005, 06:27 PM
Irieguy Irieguy is offline
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Default Re: Common misconceptions. #1: Playing for first

You must play the bubble in a manner that maximizes your chances of winning the SNG. This is a true statement. Understanding what this statement means is the hard part.

What's interesting is that Lorinda, by arguing that the statement is false, actually understands it better than everybody else.

Irieguy
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Old 03-09-2005, 06:29 PM
Daliman Daliman is offline
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Default Re: Common misconceptions. #1: Playing for first

I don't play for first in SNG's. I play for maximum profit over the long term, and they are often mutually exclusive.
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Old 03-09-2005, 06:30 PM
Vee Quiva Vee Quiva is offline
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Default Re: Common misconceptions. #1: Playing for first

It is a very rare occasion that the blinds are this high with 3 left. Plus if you have 3-4000 chips left and the short stack has 1000 left, that means the third player has....presto!!....3-4000 chips. (Assuming Party structure of 800 starting chips and 10 players)

That means your strategy of taking unnecessary risks to accumulate chips and become the chip leader did not work because you are currently in 2nd place.
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Old 03-09-2005, 06:33 PM
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Default Re: Common misconceptions. #1: Playing for first


Yea, but it's not about the money...its all about the title baby.
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Old 03-09-2005, 06:41 PM
EarlCat EarlCat is offline
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Default Re: Common misconceptions. #1: Playing for first

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So, let's have one of these tourneys where we have two players "Playing for first" and two players "Limping for third". We'll assume all four players are equally skilled.

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Doesn't the play-for-first-settle-for-third strategy come into play only after the bubble has burst and you're guaranteed at least 3rd??
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Old 03-09-2005, 06:49 PM
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Default Re: Common misconceptions. #1: Playing for first

You better hope that Lori is in a good mood when she reads this [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 03-09-2005, 06:49 PM
Daliman Daliman is offline
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Default Re: Common misconceptions. #1: Playing for first

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Yea, but it's not about the money...its all about the title baby.

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That's why you got 3rd.

Whats the last title YOU won?
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Old 03-09-2005, 06:59 PM
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Default Re: Common misconceptions. #1: Playing for first


I won the title of $100 sit and go champion once!!!!
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Old 03-09-2005, 07:03 PM
stupidsucker stupidsucker is offline
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Default Re: Common misconceptions. #1: Playing for first

Shh Lori, dont let out ll the secrets!

I still play for first so to speak, but I base how I will play given the situation. I made a post on this a while back, but it was quickly lost.

Once ITM I check out stack sizes and try to have a feel for how agressive my opponents are. You cant get 1st without getting HU(there are some cases). This means being aggressive on the steal, but not on the call. Some people think that K9s is an awesome hand to call all in with ITM because they want that 1st place.

I like those people... My ITM game has improved leaps and bounds, I think my bubble play got too weak tight.
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