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Old 07-16-2004, 06:37 AM
bilbo-san bilbo-san is offline
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Default Flop set vs str/flush board played aggressively

Pacific Poker $1/$2 (10 Players)

Had a pretty interesting pot just now on Pacific Poker. I'm wondering if I played it correctly by being extremely aggressive or if I was being a maniac. No reads other than the table appears *very* loose pre-flop and post-flop in the ten or so hands I've been playing; many flops have 6-7 players and I've seen J5o UTG and 95o on the button take pots in a showdown, and in both cases they called with literally nothing on the flop.

Hero is CO mit Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

3 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, LMP folds, Hero raises, button folds, SB 3-bets, BB folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero caps, everyone calls.

Now, the old me just calls this re-raise; I could be up against AA or KK. But I think that as long as there are 2 fish that are going to keep calling, I have to keep jamming. Is this true, or am I rationalizing?

Pot: 8.12 BB
Flop (4 players): 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
SB bets, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, MP3 calls, Hero caps, SB calls, MP3 calls.

Again, the old me is thinking "arg, someone's got a flush or a straight here. Just call". But I think that I have 7 outs vs. straights and flushes on the turn, and 10 at the river, and you can't worry about monsters under the bed, and besides SB won't 3-bet with JT pre-flop (will he??), so I think it's even more like likely I'm up against KK or AA, although A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] is a possibility.


Again, am I right or am I rationalizing? I'm new at this [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Pot: 14 BB
Turn (3 players): 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
SB checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets, SB calls, MP3 calls

My thoughts here:

"OMG, there *must* be a straight now. Ah, well, I'll bet and call a raise.

Huh. Everyone just called. Must have the best hand. Shrug."

Pot: 17 BB
River (3 players): 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets, SB calls, MP3 raises (!), Hero 3-bets, SB calls, MP3 caps, Hero FOLDS (ah, just kidding [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]), Hero calls, SB calls.

Wierd that MP3 came alive there. Maybe he has a flush and was sandbagging. I'm very sure I have SB beat, nothing that could beat me is a hand any sane person would 3-bet with before the flop.

Final Pot: 29 BB, between SB, Hero, and MP3.

Comments on all streets appreciated.
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Old 07-16-2004, 07:17 AM
ejess ejess is offline
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Default Re: Flop set vs str/flush board played aggressively

I think you played it very well.

You made me very curious of what the other guys had though? Perhaps MP3 had 88 or 99? Do you know what SB had, AA one diamond maybe?

SB and MP3 check-calling the turn smells like they are both on some sort of draw to me.

Nice pot [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 07-16-2004, 08:53 AM
bilbo-san bilbo-san is offline
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Default Re: Flop set vs str/flush board played aggressively

[ QUOTE ]
I think you played it very well.

You made me very curious of what the other guys had though? Perhaps MP3 had 88 or 99? Do you know what SB had, AA one diamond maybe?

SB and MP3 check-calling the turn smells like they are both on some sort of draw to me.

Nice pot [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

Thx [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I won't elaborate yet on what MP3 had (any more comments anyone?), but it wasn't a draw. I will say that he played very badly, imho. I didn't see what SB had; he mucked his cards and their hand history is just a graphical replay, they don't send you HHs like PP (MP3 showed his cards). In the chat, he said he put me on KK or AA, so I assume he did not have those hands, which means if I had to guess, he had A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] since almost nothing else justifies a call on the river and nothing I can think of would 3-bet me pre-flop. OTOH, with the nut flush he'd be insane to not raise the turn, so I'm at a loss...
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