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Old 12-19-2005, 08:03 PM
HiatusOver HiatusOver is offline
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7 handed game, this is my first orbit. 2 off the button I open raise K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] to 55. Unknown calls me in the Hi-Jack, everyone else folds.

Flop 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I bet 100 he makes it 258, I call.

Turn A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

I check he bets 450

Plan? any good so far?
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Old 12-19-2005, 08:27 PM
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When he bets on the turn like that after a rainbow flop you are [censored]. The A is the worst possible card for his holdings you are ahead of - if he is truly unknown this one flies to the muck. Also, most people raise more before the flop. 55 seems to be a number that will entice many more callers than say 70 or 80 (there is a noticeable difference IMO).
-James
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Old 12-19-2005, 08:31 PM
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yea I have already moved my raise size up to 65. I have been raising smaller in tournaments lately (with good results), so I kind of slipped and did it the first few hands in the cash games.

About post-flop...can I come back over the top on the flop then?? I really hate the idea of my line being...call, check-fold here in general. Do I have to get used to using that line?
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Old 12-19-2005, 11:24 PM
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I dont mind a 3 bet once in a while in such a scenario, he could put you on high cards and think his 88 or so i good on the flop.
A 3 bet on the flop slows him down without a monster and he actually may dump a hand such as TT.
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Old 12-19-2005, 08:46 PM
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Anyone else on this one?? This is the hard one of the 3 I posted I think
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Old 12-19-2005, 08:49 PM
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Hiatus,

You can checkraise the flop as well. The bet/call is fine. As you played it, the turn card was horrible, so just check fold until you know this is a guy who can fire multiple barrel bluffs.
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Old 12-19-2005, 11:06 PM
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Hiatus,

You can checkraise the flop as well. The bet/call is fine. As you played it, the turn card was horrible, so just check fold until you know this is a guy who can fire multiple barrel bluffs.

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ElD, you really checkraise this? (on the flop)

please enlighten me
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Old 12-19-2005, 11:09 PM
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Hiatus,

You can checkraise the flop as well. The bet/call is fine. As you played it, the turn card was horrible, so just check fold until you know this is a guy who can fire multiple barrel bluffs.

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ElD, you really checkraise this? (on the flop)

please enlighten me

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Induce a bluff by someone using position. He thinks it's an easy steal. Then you pop him. You get the pot or know for sure you're beat and can shut down if called.
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Old 12-19-2005, 11:13 PM
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Hiatus,

You can checkraise the flop as well. The bet/call is fine. As you played it, the turn card was horrible, so just check fold until you know this is a guy who can fire multiple barrel bluffs.

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ElD, you really checkraise this? (on the flop)

please enlighten me

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Induce a bluff by someone using position. He thinks it's an easy steal. Then you pop him. You get the pot or know for sure you're beat and can shut down if called.

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then why not make this play with JT; 44; and A8? (etc)

Icould understand maybe flop c/r with AA>.. I think me raising pf then trying to c/r doesnt mesh with my overall game. something to add maybe
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Old 12-20-2005, 09:46 AM
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Hiatus,

You can checkraise the flop as well. The bet/call is fine. As you played it, the turn card was horrible, so just check fold until you know this is a guy who can fire multiple barrel bluffs.

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If theres a non k/9 turn card im calling its an A.
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