45s Hand... (.25/.50NL on Prima)

[3N1GM4]

Advice welcome on any street. thejetz00 is 45/11 over 200 hands, KIDDER123 is 17/7 over 50 hands.

** Game ID 583246345 starting - 2005-11-19 09:25:39
** Get Back [Hold 'em] (0.25|0.50 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

Seat 1: 3N1GM4.....$48.25 [4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] [Dealer]
Seat 2: KIDDER123 $73.55
Seat 3: wmatt180 $27.62
Seat 4: E-ROCKS-U $36.15
Seat 5: Zolx $17.41
Seat 6: Titanicus $44.80
Seat 7: thejetz00 $213.73
Seat 8: ALATSIPPAA $57.35
Seat 9: Handyman1968 $49.75
Seat 10: j2zooted $47.75

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| Preflop|
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KIDDER123 posted the small blind - $0.25
wmatt180 posted the big blind - $0.50
<font color="green">E-ROCKS-U folded
Zolx folded
Titanicus folded</font>
<font color="orange">thejetz00 called - $0.50</font>
<font color="green">ALATSIPPAA folded
Handyman1968 folded
j2zooted folded</font>
<font color="orange">3N1GM4 called - $0.50
KIDDER123 called - $0.50
wmatt180 checked</font>

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| Flop [4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] 4 Players, Pot: $2|
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<font color="red">KIDDER123 bet - $1.50</font>
<font color="green">wmatt180 folded</font>
<font color="orange">thejetz00 called - $1.50
3N1GM4 called - $1.50</font>

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| Turn [8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] 3Players, Pot:$6.50|
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<font color="red">KIDDER123 bet - $2.50
thejetz00 raised - $6.00
3N1GM4 raised - $15.00</font>
<font color="green">KIDDER123 folded</font>
<font color="orange">thejetz00 called - $15.00</font>

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| River [10[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] 2 Players, Pot: $39|
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<font color="red">thejetz00 bet - $25.00</font>
<font color="green">3N1GM4 folded</font>
thejetz00 mucks:
thejetz00 wins $62.05 from the main pot

[yvesaint]

raise more on the turn, to like, 20

however, i dont know if i even call on the flop, you probably have around anywhere from 0-10 outs ... most likely about 6

[3N1GM4]

Yeah, raising more on the turn would've been better, agreed.

But just wondering, how do you figure I have 0-10 outs on the flop? Are either of these guys gonna play this way with 9T? I guess the BB might've had 95...

Of course I realise that my club outs might not be good, so I suppose I see what you mean about the flop call...

Was just such a nasty card to come on the river, I had to fold there, right?

[3N1GM4]

anyone else?

[3N1GM4]

hate to bump again, but oops, just did it.

[xorbie]

I think it's an ugly river fold, and you should raise both flop and turn.

[3N1GM4]

I agree I should've raised the turn here, but why should I raise on the flop with my pair and OESD? I'm not saying I disagree that I should, just wanted to know the reasoning behind it...

[the machine]

yes fold the river flop is perfect for a semi bluff raise and will save you money on the turn if you are already beat and drawing slim. on the turn youve hit youre card you were calling to and the raise is too small. i like an over bet here and if you are against 95 so be it.