Q8s - Hmm

POKhER · #1 10-18-2005, 11:07 AM

Co = 16/7/2 - No showdown info or anything strange.
UTG+1 = 50/9/2.3
UTG = 71/5/.06

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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Hero calls, 1 fold, BB checks.

Flop: (8.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8 players)
BB folds, UTG bets, UTG+1 raises, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, CO calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.

I think my call is ok?

Turn: (9.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, CO bets, Hero..., UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls.

Now... To Raise... To Call.... To fold?

stoli · #2 10-18-2005, 11:10 AM

Any reads here?

Nick Royale · #3 10-18-2005, 11:12 AM

Fold tha flop.

stoli · #4 10-18-2005, 11:17 AM

Yeah that too, but since you played it any reads you have would help people respond to your post.

#5 10-18-2005, 11:18 AM

*grunch

I assume it was a pretty loose table to call preflop with Q8s, so...

I think the flop call was good.

Call again on the turn. The pot is/will be too big to fold and with CO just entering the fray I don't think a raise is correct for he must be on something big (set of 9's?) to come in after so much earlier action.

#6 10-18-2005, 11:36 AM

I think the flop call is fine with top pair and a BDFD getting 15.5-2. The turn card is bad for you since now an 8 makes a straight for anyone with a T and your flush possibilities are gone. I think the turn is a raise or fold situation and I lean towards fold since CO is so tight.

Aaron W. · #7 10-18-2005, 11:45 AM

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I assume it was a pretty loose table to call preflop with Q8s, so...

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There's no need to assume. Hero is on the button with 6 limpers.

Aaron W. · #8 10-18-2005, 11:50 AM

I would fold on the flop. I've got a serious case of reverse implied odds here. The queen is worth only half an out (because of the real chance of being dominated), I've got an iffy 8 out, my other 8s face a flush/gutshot redraw, and I'm getting only about 8:1. The backdoor flush makes it closer, but I still don't like this spot.

steelcmg · #9 10-18-2005, 11:54 AM

I would fold on the turn i think u are way behind and UTG+1 may still reraise here.

#10 10-18-2005, 11:58 AM

I also fold the turn. I might fold the flop but I am not sure. Definately the turn though.