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Old 11-04-2005, 10:22 PM
JerBear77 JerBear77 is offline
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Default Two Inflection Point problems......

Hand #1

Blinds 250/500
Ante 100

Hero: 5200 K
Rest of table is greater than me, ranging from 6500 to 13000


8 people at table

Dealt K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] EP


(Blinds will be increasing in 1 min)

Push here??
If not, what do you need to push?



Hand #2


500/1000 Blinds

Hero: 9000
Villian: 4200

K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]



Villian in BB
Hero in MP


Hero limps, everyone folds to BB


Flop: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Villian goes all in giving hero roughly 2 to 1 pot odds.
Call here?
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Old 11-04-2005, 10:25 PM
Bigdaddydvo Bigdaddydvo is offline
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Default Re: Two Inflection Point problems......

Looks like two folds to me.
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Old 11-04-2005, 10:26 PM
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Default Re: Two Inflection Point problems......

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Hand #1

Blinds 250/500
Ante 100

Hero: 5200 K
Rest of table is greater than me, ranging from 6500 to 13000


8 people at table

Dealt K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] EP


(Blinds will be increasing in 1 min)

Push here??
If not, what do you need to push?



Hand #2


500/1000 Blinds

Hero: 9000
Villian: 4200

K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]



Villian in BB
Hero in MP


Hero limps, everyone folds to BB


Flop: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Villian goes all in giving hero roughly 2 to 1 pot odds.
Call here?

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First one is a good play, your M is around 3 depending on how many people at the table, and you have good vigorish. Second one not so good, if villain is BB he could have easily hit that flop.
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Old 11-04-2005, 10:27 PM
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Default Re: Two Inflection Point problems......

Hand 1 i fold, a rough guess of what i'd push w/ here... 77+, AJo+, KQs

hand 2: i push here PF. And no, if i somehow got to the flop, i fold to his bet there. I think.
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Old 11-04-2005, 11:39 PM
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Default Re: Two Inflection Point problems......

I push both preflop in almost all likelihood. I definitely do NOT limp hand 2.
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Old 11-05-2005, 12:11 AM
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Default Re: Two Inflection Point problems......

IMO both are pretty easy PF shoves. In han 1 I shove probably top 75-80%.
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Old 11-05-2005, 12:33 AM
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Default Re: Two Inflection Point problems......

Hand 1: Fold. I'd think about shoving this late, but not early. This can be table-dependent, though. If EP pushes are given excessive respect at your table (sometimes the case at Stars), you might decide to shove it anyway.

Hand 2: Push pf. Given the limp, fold. He hit that flop, or has a small pair.
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Old 11-05-2005, 12:40 AM
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Default Re: Two Inflection Point problems......

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Hand 1: Fold. I'd think about shoving this late, but not early. This can be table-dependent, though. If EP pushes are given excessive respect at your table (sometimes the case at Stars), you might decide to shove it anyway.


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The guy only has 3xpot & you want him to muck a strong King?!
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Old 11-05-2005, 12:40 AM
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Default Re: Two Inflection Point problems......

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In han 1 I shove probably top 75-80%.


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I did a little math when i saw people disagree about hand 1..
KTo should be like + 1-ish BB on average..

i can't imagine that the bottom part of that 75% range you'd be pushing would not be +cEV. My guess is that ~40% would be good to push here. Maybe i'll do more math later, but probably not, because i'm lazy/
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