Folding JJ to a minraise preflop.

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LOL. Anyone seen my testicles?

***** Hand History for Game 2536818665 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:14848273 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Sunday, August 14, 22:29:57 EDT 2005
Table Table 14249 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: Two20Inside ( $740 )
Seat 7: erauseo ( $660 )
Seat 8: pokard ( $770 )
Seat 9: xyrophobic ( $1435 )
Seat 5: John_Galt_ ( $1060 )
Seat 2: TirePro00 ( $2255 )
Seat 4: usndiver ( $345 )
Seat 6: Chang26 ( $735 )
Trny:14848273 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to xyrophobic [ Jc Jh ]
erauseo raises [100].
pokard folds.
xyrophobic folds.

[Pasterbator]

i just puked on my keyboard.

Sincerely,
A $20+2 player thats thinks UTG had A7s.

[Newt_Buggs]

I would call

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From same tournament. Here is why I hate JJ:

***** Hand History for Game 2536877323 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:14848273 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Sunday, August 14, 22:39:06 EDT 2005
Table Table 14249 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 8: pokard ( $725 )
Seat 9: xyrophobic ( $1960 )
Seat 5: John_Galt_ ( $830 )
Seat 2: TirePro00 ( $2475 )
Seat 4: usndiver ( $435 )
Seat 6: Chang26 ( $1575 )
Trny:14848273 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to xyrophobic [ Jh Js ]
TirePro00 folds.
usndiver raises [300].
John_Galt_ folds.
Chang26 folds.
pokard folds.
xyrophobic is all-In [1810]
usndiver is all-In [135]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2h, Kc, 9d ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ad ]
** Dealing River ** [ 6c ]
usndiver shows [ As, Qs ] a pair of aces.
xyrophobic shows [ Jh, Js ] a pair of jacks.
xyrophobic wins 1525 chips from side pot #1 with a pair of jacks.
usndiver wins 945 chips from the main pot with a pair of aces.
nh

[Freudian]

I don't mind folding, if your read tells you he is trapping with a big hand.

I can see folding, calling and reraising as valid alternatives. Can't remember ever having a good enough read to fold in a case like this thoguh. Most of the time I like a reraise to 250-300 here.

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I would call

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I would hate calling here only to get raised behind... In the immortal words of TJ Cloutier "Reraise or fold."

I think I am scared to play JJ now that I have looked over my hand performance. It's 10th from the bottom. Ugh. WTF.

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I think I am scared to play JJ now that I have looked over my hand performance. It's 10th from the bottom. Ugh. WTF.

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Don't worry. It's just variance. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

[Myst]

Folding is inexcusable.

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Don't worry. It's just variance. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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It probably is. 72 has been more profitable for me.

(Losing less, that is.)

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Folding is inexcusable.

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Not really. In a 22 you can count on at least one person calling behind, and the BB calling too.

If you assume UTG has a real hand- one worthy of raising UTG... what range would you put him on? AA, KK, AKs, QQ...?

Not that it matters, but in this hand, the player next to act after I folded pushed, and was called by UTG.