180man SNG Hand #1 - Really really weird AKs

[Colombo]

this is a $20 180-man on stars correct?

You will see K6o and QJ enough to make this an extremely profitable call. I'm not being sarcastic or exaggerating either.

[Firefly]

CLAYTON's Range
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

8,981,180,208 games 46.157 secs 194,578,941 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 29.5195 % 23.12% 06.40% { AKs }
Hand 2: 38.3004 % 33.77% 04.53% { 99+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 3: 32.1801 % 28.88% 03.30% { 99+, AQs+, AQo+ }


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MY RANGE

15,725,289,888 games 66.967 secs 234,821,477 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 34.1452 % 28.32% 05.82% { AKs }
Hand 2: 30.7703 % 27.76% 03.01% { 88+, AQs+, KQs, AQo+, KQo }
Hand 3: 35.0844 % 30.91% 04.17% { 99+, AQs+, AQo+ }


So if Clay really believes that is the range for MP1, then its a fold. If not, call

[ononimo]

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How am I supposed to interpret button's call though?

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I think it's in fact very light on AA, KK.

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it could actually be heavy on AA b/c the button is looking for a call (or hopefully an all-in reraise) from the original raiser? What other pair wouldn't want to re-raise all-in to shut out any stray Ace that certainly would have odds to call at this point?

[Hotrod0823]

Tough spot but I can't see myself folding AKs here but then again it is likely that Button is sitting on AA given the cold call.

Looks like he wants the action from you.

I don't love the fold but can't see calling here.

I'm not in the habit of folding AKs but if ever there was a spot.

Is shoving the best option??

[ClaytonN]

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So if Clay really believes that is the range for MP1, then its a fold. If not, call

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wooyay.

results:

Button has 44
Pusher guy has AKo

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Button has 44

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Enough said.

Maybe button had you both read for AK (or a good chance)? I'll take 44 vs. 2 guys w/AK any day. But I'll only shoot for it when I'm desperate, which he certainly wasn't.

[Blindcurve]

Is the button's play terrible if he puts Clayton on exactly ATs+ AJo+, and the push on AJs+, AQo+ exactly? Actually even if you include the pairs say, 66-TT, if you know Clayton is good and has a good chance of folding to a freaky looking overcall. How donkish is this, actually?

Out of curiosity, not endorsement...

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Is the button's play terrible if he puts Clayton on exactly ATs+ AJo+, and the push on AJs+, AQo+ exactly? Actually even if you include the pairs say, 66-TT, if you know Clayton is good and has a good chance of folding to a freaky looking overcall. How donkish is this, actually?

Out of curiosity, not endorsement...

-D.

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Yes.. the button's play is horrible. It's pretty ridiculous to decide that neither player has an overpair on him.

[ansky451]

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Is the button's play terrible if he puts Clayton on exactly ATs+ AJo+, and the push on AJs+, AQo+ exactly? Actually even if you include the pairs say, 66-TT, if you know Clayton is good and has a good chance of folding to a freaky looking overcall. How donkish is this, actually?

Out of curiosity, not endorsement...

-D.

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Yes.. the button's play is horrible. It's pretty ridiculous to decide that neither player has an overpair on him.

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Yeah its atrocious. How could he possiblty "put them" on overcards given the action.


And FWIW I may have folded Clay, I misread the origial post. Usually I'd call off there, but I would consier a fold.