No significant transfer value from limit to no limit?

[Arnfinn Madsen]

Hi, I play limit fulltime, read a lot about limit, think about it too (yes, I am a geek [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]). My game has improved significantly during the last months.

However, I play a few hours of no limit once or twice a week (live with friends or a tourney) and I think I am at the same level in no limit as a was 6 months ago. I have not putten any effort into learning no limit, but is there really nothing from what I learn in limit that improves my no limit game? Or do I even get a lot of habits, that ruins my no limit game?

That's like asking if Tball is the same as baseball. NL rewards skilled players more than limit; if you got the ability, the balls and the bankroll I say go for it.

[pzhon]

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... is there really nothing from what I learn in limit that improves my no limit game? Or do I even get a lot of habits, that ruins my no limit game?

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If you understand why you do things in limit, this may carry over to improve your NL game. However, if you blindly follow recipes that work in limit, you will find that these often do not work in NL.

For example, in limit, you may have learned that it is rarely right to cold-call. In NL, it is often right just to call a raise preflop. In limit, if you are strong enough to enter the pot, you usually want to increase the pressure on the blinds or limpers by 3-betting, and you don't mind so much if the initial raiser caps. In NL, the preflop raise already prices out the blinds unless they have strong hands, and you can profitably call with many hands with which you would greatly regret reraising if the initial raiser pushes.

In general, bets and calls represent more strength in NL than in limit. Implied odds are much more important. It is more important to play hands that can make very strong hands rather than just decent hands. Position improves your implied odds, so position is more important in NL than limit.

[jgorham]

TBall is way harder.

[Arnfinn Madsen]

Thx for the reply.

I have experimented a bit with this now and have played almost every game available and noticed that I do well in Stud, Omaha limit, Omaha8 limit, Single & double draw limit (local games) even if I have not studied those games extensively; while I don't do good in pot limit or no limit games. It seems to me now that when you play good players, having a good "fingerspütsgefiel" for the betting system is more important than the type of game; as most rules/ odds calculations are quite simple.

[Chobohoya]

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"fingerspütsgefiel"

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Ok, wtf is that. feel? Just say feel if that's what you mean lol.

[zephed]

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Thx for the reply.

I have experimented a bit with this now and have played almost every game available and noticed that I do well in Stud, Omaha limit, Omaha8 limit, Single & double draw limit (local games) even if I have not studied those games extensively; while I don't do good in pot limit or no limit games. It seems to me now that when you play good players, having a good "fingerspütsgefiel" for the betting system is more important than the type of game; as most rules/ odds calculations are quite simple.

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You probably end up calling too much postflop. That is exactly what I do.

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That's like asking if Tball is the same as baseball. NL rewards skilled players more than limit; if you got the ability, the balls and the bankroll I say go for it.

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This statement is rediculous and incorrect.