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Old 11-02-2005, 01:13 PM
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Re David's dinosaur question: Your link talks about saving the dinosaurs, since their eggs were relatively small. So, I repeat the question he asked: Were there humans and dinosaurs living at the same time?

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NotReady had a great response elsewhere in this thread that, quite honestly, also applies here: That will be relevent when I declare www.answersingenesis.org to be infallible. The point being that my link gave a reasonable answer as how the animals could have fit on the ark, which was the original question.
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Old 11-02-2005, 02:54 PM
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The point being that my link gave a reasonable answer as how the animals could have fit on the ark, which was the original question.

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A "reasonable explanation" should satisfy the scientific/secular paradigm that the atheistic audience whom you're addressing holds...otherwise there would be no reason because you can revert to "everything is possible with God."

A "reasonable explanation" is not one that can be provided by a couple half-wits on that website; it would require a team of anthropologists, engineers, zoologists and strategists to explain how Noah, a guy with stone-age technology, could build a boat half the length of the Titanic, round up two of every non-sea dwelling species on earth, and accomodate them with food, air, pooping facilities (for lack of a better term) in this massive, gopher-wood ark, with adequate living accomodations for seven months...AND maintain them such a manner that they all lived.

The scientific/practical problems with this are far too numerous to even be worth listing. Noah could NOT have been able to do this without some incredibly divine intervention, and if we're willing to accept divine intervention, then there is no reason for people to be arguing how someone could pull this ridiculous feat off.

Please accept that you want us to believe something that IS completely and utterly impossible short of divine intervention, and stop making yourself look like an idiot.
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Old 11-02-2005, 03:00 PM
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The point being that my link gave a reasonable answer as how the animals could have fit on the ark, which was the original question.

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A "reasonable explanation" should satisfy the scientific/secular paradigm that the atheistic audience whom you're addressing holds...otherwise there would be no reason because you can revert to "everything is possible with God."

A "reasonable explanation" is not one that can be provided by a couple half-wits on that website; it would require a team of anthropologists, engineers, zoologists and strategists to explain how Noah, a guy with stone-age technology, could build a boat half the length of the Titanic, round up two of every non-sea dwelling species on earth, and accomodate them with food, air, pooping facilities (for lack of a better term) in this massive, gopher-wood ark, with adequate living accomodations for seven months...AND maintain them such a manner that they all lived.

The scientific/practical problems with this are far too numerous to even be worth listing. Noah could NOT have been able to do this without some incredibly divine intervention, and if we're willing to accept divine intervention, then there is no reason for people to be arguing how someone could pull this ridiculous feat off.

Please accept that you want us to believe something that IS completely and utterly impossible short of divine intervention, and stop making yourself look like an idiot.

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I never said that divine intervention wasn't possible. What I said was that the Bible is true, word for word. This means that Noah built the ark and put the animals inside. It does not mean that God didn't help Noah. If you are telling me, however, that it was impossible to build the ark based on the technology of Noah's time, you're wrong.
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Old 11-02-2005, 03:08 PM
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If you are telling me, however, that it was impossible to build the ark based on the technology of Noah's time, you're wrong.

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Are you trying to tell me that this amazing feat of engineering was possible without divine intervention?

If yes, I won't dignify your answer with a response.
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Old 11-02-2005, 03:13 PM
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If the Bible is true, word for word, then who found Jesus' tomb empty?

Specifically.
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Old 11-02-2005, 05:50 PM
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If you are telling me, however, that it was impossible to build the ark based on the technology of Noah's time, you're wrong.

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Are you trying to tell me that this amazing feat of engineering was possible without divine intervention?

If yes, I won't dignify your answer with a response.

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Again, I'm not saying that divine intervention didn't occur. I've never said anything different. What I maintain is that the description of the account in the Bible is true.

As for the engineering of the ark, this group of Korean naval architects disagree with you.
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Old 11-02-2005, 03:17 PM
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according to the Bible the flood" became so deep that it covered the highest mountains" thereby the flood covered mount Everest. Mount Everest is 8km high, so we basically need a lot of water.
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Old 11-02-2005, 03:24 PM
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http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/7.html

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Old 11-02-2005, 03:18 PM
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txa, I've got a question regarding the ark. Did the flood indeed cover the entire earth, so that all humans and land based mammals now living descend from those on the ark?
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Old 11-02-2005, 03:38 PM
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txa, I've got a question regarding the ark. Did the flood indeed cover the entire earth, so that all humans and land based mammals now living descend from those on the ark?

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I'm not sure, BluffThis. Common belief is that it did indeed cover the whole Earth, but there is also a convincing Biblical argument that it was a local flood.
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