Palestinians

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Here, we are free. Don't bother us, we won't bother you.

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So stop taking our tax dollars then and be self-sufficient.

[Gamblor]

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Here, we are free. Don't bother us, we won't bother you.

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So stop taking our tax dollars then and be self-sufficient.

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I wish. The day we stop being schnorrs will the greatest day in Israeli history.

Give me 2 million Jews, and I'll give you a thriving nation, in which Arabs and Jews live side by side, without racism and prejudice, in which everyone has equal rights under one government, free under god.

[Matty]

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Isn't that like saying the U.S. is bad because we kicked out the American Indians? It was bad at the time, but kind of a moot point now.

[/ QUOTE ]I never said acting in our self-interest is bad at all. When our self-interst coincides with the self-interest of others (which is very commonly the case) I think it's great. I can't wait to get a Democratic President in office who can use the resources Junior has in destabilizing Iraq to instead fight global poverty which is where terrorism really breeds.

[Matty]

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1/3 of this planet is cashing checks from Uncle Sam.

[/ QUOTE ]And yet 1/3rd of what we give goes to your tiny, well-fed country. Not really much of a comparison here.

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1/3 of this planet is cashing checks from Uncle Sam.

[/ QUOTE ]And yet 1/3rd of what we give goes to your tiny, well-fed country. Not really much of a comparison here.

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Are you saying that 1/3 of the foreign aid the US gives goes to Israel?

[Olof]

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I can't wait to get a Democratic President in office who can use the resources Junior has in destabilizing Iraq to instead fight global poverty which is where terrorism really breeds.

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Not really.

Terrorism has little or nothing to do with economics

Terrorism not caused by poverty

Terrorists aren't desperate

[Matty]

Not on an individual level no, but on a societal level yes. Al Quaeda & co. got their tactics from the Tamil Tigers, and all the two groups have in common is poor environments.

That's not to say economic conditions and terrorism always correlate exactly. For example in the study you linked which showed a rise in terrorism as economic conditions improved in Palestine it is more likely just a factor of Palestinians gaining new access and abilities. Extreme poverty obviously doesn't allow much time to worry about anything other than finding food. The situation is also unique in that the Palestinian government can't really get powerful enough to control its citizens because they are being occupied and consistently getting their [censored] bombed.

Stable, strong, and representative political structures are also essential. There is no one cause, but I believe these two are the most highly correlated.

Thanks for the links.

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Are you saying that 1/3 of the foreign aid the US gives goes to Israel?

[/ QUOTE ]Correct. About 3 Bil a year if I remember correctly.