99 vs 65/11/2 - Page 3

lautzutao · #21 10-21-2005, 11:52 AM

would you agree with the flop raise if you though it would buy you a free showdown?

Chris Daddy Cool · #22 10-21-2005, 11:54 AM

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would you agree with the flop raise if you though it would buy you a free showdown?

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sure. also if you get 3bet on the flop it becomes a pretty easy hand to play after that no?

lautzutao · #23 10-21-2005, 11:54 AM

Yeah, it's an autofold[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

bozlax · #24 10-21-2005, 12:03 PM

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He's a bit loose with his PFR...

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Since when is 11% a bit loose PFR? He's a LOT loose at 65% VPIP, but that doesn't impact his PFR at all. Now, at 2, with a VPIP of 65, his PAF is ginormous...

Redd · #25 10-21-2005, 12:11 PM

Even at this limit? I rarely see light blind steals (let alone caps) from MP2 at 1/2 because most players are passive and even the aggressive ones have trouble getting a small field/buying the pot against typically loose opponents. And just because capping 88/AQ may be a good play for Villain here doesn't mean he's going to do it very often; I'd guess that a 'typical' 1/2 Villain caps 88/AQ <5% of the time?

DCWildcat · #26 10-21-2005, 12:25 PM

I hate raising this flop, you're way too likely to be 3-bet here. Calling > folding > raising in my opinion.

Wait, [censored], I forgot to do a 2 page long equity calculation. [censored].

Watain · #27 10-21-2005, 01:16 PM

Sure. I was trying to figure out what to do on the flop.

Watain · #28 10-21-2005, 01:19 PM

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The pot would be 11.75 at showdown where you had to pay 2,5 to call him down.

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It looks to me like you're counting the 2.5 bets we invest here in the 11.75 bets that we win. Those are a cost and not a profit.

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Im not sure about this.

But the way i see it is that we spend 2,5bb to win a pot of 11,75bb. Doesn´t really matter who have put the money into it. The "cost" is already into the equation, when we do the "profit"/"cost" thing.

Redd · #29 10-21-2005, 02:28 PM

While it's good for one to not think of money in the pot as one's money, at the point we're considering the calldown our money isn't in the pot yet. We're spending 2.5BB to win the money already in the pot plus our opponent's 2.5BB.