Do you reraise this river?

#1 12-01-2005, 06:07 PM

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Villains river raise looks really fishy- was he chasing a straight or not? I cant tell, but I decided that just calling was best. Comments?

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, UTG calls, Button folds.

Turn: (5.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, UTG calls.

River: (8.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, UTG folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

POKhER · #2 12-01-2005, 06:10 PM

I call, getting 3bet and having to call sucks.

MrWookie47 · #3 12-01-2005, 06:17 PM

It depends on what combinations of two pair are reasonable holdings for him. How loose is he? How aggressive?

shadow29 · #4 12-01-2005, 06:19 PM

Hi Kidd,

Yes I do 3-bet the river and call a cap.

Best Regards,

John

POKhER · #5 12-01-2005, 06:24 PM

geee 3bet and call a cap, ya reckon BB is capping with twopair etc? or a worse set i assume?

#6 12-01-2005, 06:28 PM

I'd 3bet and call a cap.

jba · #7 12-01-2005, 06:31 PM

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I call, getting 3bet and having to call sucks.

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this is not a logical explanation for calling. you need to quantify how often you think we are getting capped, and how often we are not, and how often we are getting called by a worse hand.

I'm not picking on you specifically, I'm just seeing this reasoning used a TON around here (eg. "check, I hate getting check/raised here") and it's bugging me. try to craft your answers in terms of EV, I'll take a little discomfort for some $$$ any day.

Peter Harris · #8 12-01-2005, 06:32 PM

3bet, BB could just as easily have Q5 or J5 as be chasing the straight, plus undersets are possible.

POKhER · #9 12-01-2005, 07:11 PM

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I call, getting 3bet and having to call sucks.

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this is not a logical explanation for calling. you need to quantify how often you think we are getting capped, and how often we are not, and how often we are getting called by a worse hand.

I'm not picking on you specifically, I'm just seeing this reasoning used a TON around here (eg. "check, I hate getting check/raised here") and it's bugging me. try to craft your answers in terms of EV, I'll take a little discomfort for some $$$ any day.

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Well interms of EV, BB Raising the river says to me "Straight" so i assume im right and don't 3bet as its -EV.

So as i say, I just call and don't 3bet as we'll often either be: Re-raised and have to call?
Called and lose.

However, Sure he may have 2pair, I just think he has a straight.

Maybe i've got MUBS but lets see what OP shows.

jba · #10 12-01-2005, 07:16 PM

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lets see what OP shows.

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well, I tried.