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Old 11-13-2005, 05:51 AM
Jeffage Jeffage is offline
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80-160 Hold Em at Borgata. I have A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] in the SB. Folded to a loose player who opens for a raise. Others fold to me and I make it three bets. We see the flop heads up and board comes down A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] rainbow style. I bet and my opponent calls. The turn card is the K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. I check, my opponent bets and I call. The river is a small offsuit brick. I check, my opponent bets and I call. What do we think of this line?

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Old 11-13-2005, 05:52 AM
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It's fine. You make the same as a bet/call scenario, allow your opponent to bluff, and lose the least when behind.
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Old 11-13-2005, 06:12 AM
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Default Re: Slow Down, You Move Too Fast

What position was he in when he opened, how aggressive is he postflop?

Sometimes (and it varies based on the above) I think you should bet the river.
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Old 11-13-2005, 06:15 AM
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It's fine. You make the same as a bet/call scenario, allow your opponent to bluff, and lose the least when behind.

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This quote sounds good to me, This is the classic WA/WB scenario. I dont think you can ever take the bet/fold line on this turn against this player and being faced with calling a raise on the turn is not a great situation either. I wouldve played this hand the same way as you against this opponent.
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Old 11-13-2005, 06:17 AM
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Default Re: Slow Down, You Move Too Fast

He opened in LP.

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Old 11-13-2005, 06:23 AM
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Default Re: Slow Down, You Move Too Fast

i think it looks great.
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Old 11-13-2005, 07:31 AM
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**Note: I play low-stakes NL tournies, so am very out of my league.**

What about bet/fold turn? Doesn't this often save us a bet when behind and earn us the same when we're ahead? I doubt many hands in villain's range fold turn.
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Old 11-13-2005, 10:17 AM
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Default Re: Slow Down, You Move Too Fast

I don't like the river.
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Old 11-13-2005, 11:31 AM
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Default Re: Slow Down, You Move Too Fast

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80-160 Hold Em at Borgata. I have A Q in the SB. Folded to a loose player who opens for a raise. Others fold to me and I make it three bets. We see the flop heads up and board comes down A K 3 rainbow style. I bet and my opponent calls. The turn card is the K . I check, my opponent bets and I call. The river is a small offsuit brick. I check, my opponent bets and I call. What do we think of this line?

Jeff

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Nice.
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Old 11-13-2005, 01:27 PM
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Default Re: Slow Down, You Move Too Fast

What if he raises with an ace he wants to show down and not a king? Then you lay down the best hand. Also, he may fold some weak shite he peeled the flop with but your check may inspire him to bluff at least once.

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