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Old 11-04-2005, 07:53 PM
NotReady NotReady is offline
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Default Re: Non Belief Attributable to Ulterior Motives?

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And if Not Ready says that, I ask how can he be so sure that he's the objective one?


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I not only don't doubt I have ulterior motives, I know and acknowledge it for a fact. Read Romans 7 for a description of my character.

However, we must still be able to discuss objectively. If we don't even recognize the possibility of objective truth we have nothing to communicate.

I realize that explaining unbelief involves an element of ad hominem. But I don't claim that because you have ulterior motives therefore the Bible is true. I cite the Bible as the evidence for your ulterior motives (and mine). But only you and God know your heart. And God knows it better than you.
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Old 11-04-2005, 08:16 PM
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But only you and God know your heart. And God knows it better than you.

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He's making a list, and checking it twice, gonna find out who's naughty and nice...
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Old 11-04-2005, 10:34 PM
David Sklansky David Sklansky is offline
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Default Re: Non Belief Attributable to Ulterior Motives?

"I realize that explaining unbelief involves an element of ad hominem. But I don't claim that because you have ulterior motives therefore the Bible is true. I cite the Bible as the evidence for your ulterior motives (and mine). But only you and God know your heart. And God knows it better than you."

Is your stance on transubstntiation what it is because of intellect or other reasons. What about BluffTHIS? (in your opinion?).
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Old 11-05-2005, 12:47 PM
DougShrapnel DougShrapnel is offline
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Default Re: Non Belief Attributable to Ulterior Motives?

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A discussion on mariology will not result in the kind of fingerpointing that David predicts because the dispute is underpinned by more fundamental issues, namely, canonicity and papal authority. Same thing, but to a lesser extent, with transubstantiation.

[/ QUOTE ]To be honest, I don't think the examples matter one iota.
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