I hate two small pair

[mscags]

I'm not really sure what to think on this one. I bet fifth because I was looking for a freebie on sixth if I wanted one, but that didn't exactly happen. Is this fold alright or just plain bad?

7 Card Stud High-Low ($10/$20), Ante $1, Bring-In $3 (converter)

3rd Street - (0.70 SB)

Hero: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___brings-in
Seat 2: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 3: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 4: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 5: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 6: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds

4th Street - (1.60 SB)

Hero: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 2: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls

5th Street - (2.30 BB)

Hero: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 2: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___calls

6th Street - (5.30 BB)

Hero: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___folds
Seat 2: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 4: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___calls

[blumpkin22]

Good. Pretty easy fold on sixth I think. I'm not sure I would have bet fifth, but I understand what you were thinking.

[BTirish]

Would you consider check-folding on 5th? You have basically no shot at the low, and you can easily be behind for the high.

[mscags]

my thinking on fifth was that if I bet *maybe* I can get someone with just a a lone pair to fold since it appears as if I have a made low and that they are drawing to half of the pot. I was also hoping that it would give me a free card on sixth if I wanted one.

[benwood]

You want to bet 5th because your hand is deceptive,& a bet may cause somebody to make a wrong decision.You want to get a weak low draw out.If seat 2 has 6,2 or 8,6 in the hole,for axample.you want him gone.Also,it gives seat 2 a chance to raise & get rid of seat 4,which would be great.

[Spladle Master]

I play it the same. Nice hand. Bet on fifth really isn't close, in my opinion.

[mscags]

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Bet on fifth really isn't close, in my opinion.


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On which way?

[Spladle Master]

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Bet on fifth really isn't close, in my opinion.


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On which way?

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I apologize for being unclear. I meant that you must bet fifth street. Many good things can happen if you bet. Few bad things can happen.

[Duece Three]

Can someone please expand on why this is such and easy fold?

The raise from seat 2 could be because it was checked around and is taking a stab...or has a low draw along with his 10s??? Aces and 10s could be likely as well...which would suck...

At any rate, I see that they both have quite a few redraws, even if we are ahead here...but neither seemed really proud of there hand at any point...

I tend to call these situations like this down, unless I get sandwiched between raises...

Before ya'll strart drooling and looking for me, I only play at the .50/1 tables... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

The difference between a .50/1 and a 10/20 game likely have my perspective all out of whack...I want to learn...

[djr]

I agree that the 5th street bet isn't close, it's mandatory.

But I wonder about the fold on 6th. It really depends on what you figure seat two has. If you assume no one can make a low you're barely getting the right odds to see the river. If you think seat two has a made low (and the only starting hand I see him doing that with is (5h6h)Th if he's a reasonable player) then folding is right. Even if you figure one or both have a shot at a low you're right to fold.