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Old 11-24-2005, 02:42 PM
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Looks to me like it's very likely Chicago will get a bye. I doubt the Seahawks collapse, and Seattle will have home-field throughout the playoffs. New York will probably go on the road to either Seattle or Chicago, and lose. Seattle will beat Chicago at home, but it'd be a damned good game.

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Chicago loses to Tampa, Pitt, and ATL this yr, maybe MN

go in as the 4seed or miss if they lose to MN

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Chicago is better than ATL and host them. They've already trounced MN 28-3 and Minnesota's god awful. They're better than Tampa.
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Old 11-24-2005, 08:12 PM
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Looks to me like it's very likely Chicago will get a bye. I doubt the Seahawks collapse, and Seattle will have home-field throughout the playoffs. New York will probably go on the road to either Seattle or Chicago, and lose. Seattle will beat Chicago at home, but it'd be a damned good game.

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Chicago loses to Tampa, Pitt, and ATL this yr, maybe MN

go in as the 4seed or miss if they lose to MN

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Chicago is better than ATL and host them. They've already trounced MN 28-3 and Minnesota's god awful. They're better than Tampa.

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I'll be at that game on Sunday night, and it will be very cold, which will give the Bears a big advantage. It depends on which Falcons team shows up to the game.

There's no way that the current MN team is going to beat the Bears in their last meeting of the season.
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Old 11-24-2005, 10:59 PM
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The same Falcons team shows up every game, the only difference is that they haven't recovered fumbles lately.
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Old 11-26-2005, 05:40 AM
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Default Re: Odds on NFC Champs

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Looks to me like it's very likely Chicago will get a bye. I doubt the Seahawks collapse, and Seattle will have home-field throughout the playoffs. New York will probably go on the road to either Seattle or Chicago, and lose. Seattle will beat Chicago at home, but it'd be a damned good game.

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Chicago loses to Tampa, Pitt, and ATL this yr, maybe MN

go in as the 4seed or miss if they lose to MN

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Chicago is better than ATL and host them. They've already trounced MN 28-3 and Minnesota's god awful. They're better than Tampa.

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um they almost lost to NO, and Det on the road, and did lose their other 2road games .. MN is better than both NO and Det

Tampa is at home, again look at how the bears have played on the road this yr ... their record is a by product of a favorable home/away ratio, with 2games against winning teams both at home, they aren't a 7-3 caliber team, more like a decent 6-4, 5-5team .. and not a bye team

one last thing the first MN game was after the boat incident, and you only managed 200ish yds offense .. scoring because of special teams and turnovers .. it was not exactly a superdominating performance, and MN is playing better now

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Old 11-26-2005, 06:12 AM
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Yes, all three of their losses have come on the road. One, at Washington, a strong team - in Kyle Orton's first game as a rookie, and they lost by a matter of all of 2 points. Two, at Cincy - one of the best teams in the league. Three, at Cleveland - back when the team still gave a damn and played reasonably well. Orton's a rookie and makes mistakes, sometimes that'll lead to close games with bad opponents. Yes, they almost lost to NO in LSU. So? Carolina lost to NO in Carolina.

Let me tell you how impressed I am with Minnesota's upsurge. Whooo. Go Vikes, they've beaten two of the worst teams in the league and managed to beat New York without moving the ball.

Sure, Minnesota's better than Detroit and New Orleans. Color me impressed. I can use your logic, too: Chicago dominated Carolina. Carolina dominated Minnesota. Whoo. It's not about that in the NFL. You can't look at a team's worst games and say "look, these guys suck!" Because you can do that for every team.
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Old 11-26-2005, 08:41 AM
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I am a Falcons fan, and it hurts me to say this, but they're really not that good. Chicago is clearly better, and they should win the game in Chicago.

Chicago is ranked significantly higher in DVOA and a little higher in Sagarin predictor. That's good enough for me.

Atlanta is sort of a fraud. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 11-27-2005, 05:54 PM
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Chicago 13, Tampa 10

Does my gloating ever get old?
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Old 11-23-2005, 02:14 PM
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I'm sorry guys, I worded this completely wrong. I meant Odds to get the #1 seed in the NFC. Please reconsider in light of my inability to say what I mean.

No way the 'Hawks are close to 2:1 to win the NFC championship.

FWIW, I think Dallas has a better chance of winning the NFC East than NY, but because Seattle has beaten Dallas (and NY could beat Seattle this week), NY has a much better chance of getting the #1 seed if they do win the division.
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Old 11-23-2005, 02:18 PM
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Oh yeah, and upon looking at the remaining schedules for Dallas, NY, Carolina, Tampa, and Chicago, I now give it:

Seattle - 70%
NY - 25%
Other - 5%
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Old 11-23-2005, 06:58 PM
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Seems reasonable to me, just based on intuition.
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