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Re: Daily Hand Post : AJo in MP
Well, the only question here, as others have said, seems to be the river.
Looking at the hand in a vacuum like this, I'd say I'd want to 3-bet the river if the A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] is on the board, and just call if it's the 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] on the board. With the A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] on the board, I just think a hand like A9 or even J9 is much more likely than a random flush. At that point, the only other hand I'd really think the opponent could have played that way is KQ [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], or maybe something wacky like KT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. If the A on the board is NOT a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], then I just call. I think calling or raising is the only decision, and honestly, when people make a move like that on the river when I'm 4-tabling, 9 times out of 10 I just call anyway, because the river check-raise is confusing and I'm saying WTF? |
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Re: Daily Hand Post : AJo in MP
[ QUOTE ]
I think calling or raising is the only decision, and honestly, when people make a move like that on the river when I'm 4-tabling, 9 times out of 10 I just call anyway, because the river check-raise is confusing and I'm saying WTF? [/ QUOTE ] My thoughts exactly. I'm pretty sure a fold is out of the question |
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Re: Daily Hand Post : AJo in MP
Either he backed into a flush draw or has A9
I like a three-bet here, but what to do if villain caps? Groan and call? |
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Re: Daily Hand Post : AJo in MP
I'd probably 3 bet and call. 2nd choice is just call. I can't believe anyone here would 3bet and fold to a cap in this size pot. If you are going to fold to the last bet you shouldn't have put the 3rd bet in.
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Re: Daily Hand Post : AJo in MP
If your hand range includes only a flush and A9 then why would you 3-bet?
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Re: Daily Hand Post : AJo in MP
I don't think this hand is all that interesting.
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Re: Daily Hand Post : AJo in MP
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I don't think this hand is all that interesting. [/ QUOTE ] It's not if I included the suits on the flop. Way more people got this than I thought would, which is AWESOME. So many times when I'm discussing hands with people and they're talking me thru the action, a backdoor flush will come and I'll ask them which card on the flop was that suit, and they won't have the foggiest. That should really be the first thing you look for, as it can have a huge impact on your opponents' range of hands, as per this example. Learn to make looking for these things second nature and automatic. If that thought didn't occur to you relatively quicly, you probably need to start making a conscious effort during your sessions to look out for this in particular and think through more factors for opponent hand-reading in general. This hand shouldn't be interesting or difficult really, but I've noticed some people make it a lot more of a guessing game than it should be by not noticing these things. As others have said, my standard play here would be to 3-bet if the Ace was a club, and call if the 6 was a club. Same goes with AA and JJ. Folding is out of the question, though I would consider mucking AK and AQ here depending on the stats of the opponent. GoT |
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Re: Daily Hand Post : AJo in MP
I think an easy call here for the times that he raises here w/ A9 PLUS the times he's bluffing hoping to move you off w/ a weaker A. I can't think of any way you fold to this raise w/ T2P. It's 1 more bet to most likely win 18.
FMI -- what was the Flop club? Going to read everyone else's comments now -- please flame me if I'm in gross error here. |
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Re: Daily Hand Post : AJo in MP
An even better question -- What suit is GOT's A?
Back to the posts... |
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Re: Daily Hand Post : AJo in MP
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An even better question -- What suit is GOT's A? Back to the posts... [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I raise next to act with AhJc. [/ QUOTE ] -d |
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