(22) To aggressive level 1?

golfcchs · #1 10-28-2005, 12:34 AM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

CO (t785)
Button (t775)
SB (t785)
BB (t800)
UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t830)
UTG+2 (t800)
MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t825)
Hero (t800)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP1 raises to t30, 1 fold, Hero raises to t130, 2 folds, SB calls t120, 1 fold, MP1 calls t100.

Flop: (t402.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets t250, SB folds, MP1 calls t250.

Turn: (t902.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks.

River: (t902.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 bets 420, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t902.50

Do I need to slow way down level 1? I really dont like calling with Jacks here because at the 22's first raise could be anything. Do you like the continue bet on the flop? If not what would you do. I know allot of you probibly dont like my pre flop line, but I feel like I am way ahead of raiser most of the time (he said he had A-5).

jeffraider · #2 10-28-2005, 12:43 AM

Interesting hand. I'm still not completely sure of myself here, but basically, I don't hate the reraise, though I think I'd lean towards calling with JJ because you'll have position on him postflop and since he's already shown some donkish strength you may be able to snipe off a c-bet from him. The reraise is pretty okay though, but getting two preflop callers and having an ace flop I think argues strongly for not firing a c-bet out there, especially since it is so expensive to make your very reasonable c-bet of 250. He calls, you puke, and have to completely shut down on the later streets, having invested half of your stack here.

Yeah, I think preflop could go both ways (though I'd lean towards calling) and I think you've gotta just shut down on the flop.

Bluff Daddy · #3 10-28-2005, 12:56 AM

I dont like it at all. Not at the 22's. I guess you could make an argument for the reraise pf but I just flat call like jeff said in level 1. The flop bet is really bad imo after getting 2 callers on the reraise I think its time to give it up when the ace flops. Its still early and you have T670 in chips no need to fire off over 1/3 of your stack in this situation

Hendricks433 · #4 10-28-2005, 12:59 AM

Ive started just calling with JJ. I get myself into too many sticky situations with it. There are times Id reraise but in spots like this I just call most of the time.

ChrisV · #5 10-28-2005, 01:03 AM

The bet on the flop is a bit suicidal. The problem with these preflop reraises is it usually leads to a situation like this, where you have to check as betting is too committal.

tigerite · #6 10-28-2005, 04:34 AM

I would not re-raise JJ preflop, and I wouldn't bet the flop