can i fold KK pre-flop ?

[triplc]

Good points, Mantis...my post was simply to present a possible rationale for folding. And I do think it's a close call between calling and folding, really.

One thing that tips in the favor of calling, especially in a Party or Turbo SnG, is that the money is too shallow to wait for a better spot. If this was a multi, I think this is an easier fold.

Still, with one person pushing and two calling all-in in the first round of an SnG it isn't easy to win this hand even when you have the best hand preflop. And using the "gap concept", what hands do you need to have to call three all-ins this early? I definitely lay down QQ and worse, and am on the fence about KK.

Play well,

CCC

[PrayingMantis]

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what hands do you need to have to call three all-ins this early? I definitely lay down QQ and worse, and am on the fence about KK.

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I agree with you that against any kind of reasonable opposition, QQ is in very bad shape here (edit: and a hand like 65s is probably a better call than QQ here, in terms of CEV).

[adanthar]

I agree. The huge chance of AK/KK makes enough of a difference so that QQ has to be tossed but KK's still a call.

Whether I underestimate a typical $100 opponent is a good question, but I've seen too many people (even in the $200 HH's I've looked at) pull this with a middle pair or two suited cards to be folding kings.