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Old 07-27-2005, 02:01 PM
Erik W Erik W is offline
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Default AKo TPTK call down this board after a turn raise?

AKo TPTK call down this board after a turn raise?
I think I'm calling down too much.
Is this a time to not call down?
No reads.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, Button calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, Button calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero chokes
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Old 07-27-2005, 02:03 PM
dealer_toe dealer_toe is offline
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Default Re: AKo TPTK call down this board after a turn raise?

He probably has a set or AK also if he's a TAG,

...This hand sucks with out a read.
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Old 07-27-2005, 02:12 PM
krimson krimson is offline
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Default Re: AKo TPTK call down this board after a turn raise?

Without a read i'm calling down. If I knew Villian was ABC then i could maybe find a fold. Our effective odds to showdown are 2:8.75 which isn't too shabby plus we have outs to get ahead of 2-pair.
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Old 07-27-2005, 02:13 PM
mikeyvegas mikeyvegas is offline
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Default Re: AKo TPTK call down this board after a turn raise?

I always call down here, not sure if that's right though.
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Old 07-27-2005, 02:17 PM
meep_42 meep_42 is offline
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Default Re: AKo TPTK call down this board after a turn raise?

I think you need to call the turn, simply on your 2-pair counterfeiting outs (3 As, 5/6 cards that don't match his 2 pair) and the small chance he's bluffing or going for a free showdown. So, 7.75:1, you need about 6 effective outs, which I think makes this close. If you don't improve on the river, it's pretty close, but I think you should probably call to get a read on what this guy is limping on the button with and raising the turn. (Did he slowplay QJ? Does he play 89o/89s with 1 limper? Limp with KTo after 1 limper? Make odd bluffs/semi-bluffs?)

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Old 07-27-2005, 02:21 PM
Fat Nicky Fat Nicky is offline
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Default Re: AKo TPTK call down this board after a turn raise?

with no read this is a straightforward call down.
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Old 07-27-2005, 02:28 PM
TheHammer24 TheHammer24 is offline
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Default Re: AKo TPTK call down this board after a turn raise?

I think you have to call down. He could easily have KQ and pay you off. I don't think he limps with AK. Probably raises TT, KK, and probably 99. 88 is a possibility as is KT, but you have outs. No read, call down.
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