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Old 10-29-2005, 07:39 AM
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Default 99 Raised multiway pot

I felt lost in this hand.
I just sat down at the table one orbit ago, havn't seen anything weird going on yet.

Seat 1: TUFFROCK1 ( $216.15)
Seat 2: madewell111 ( $215.50)
Seat 3: AnChac_hehe ( $102.85)
Seat 4: AAstor33 ( $125.75)
Seat 5: RollinHand ( $218.15)
Seat 6: joshinu ( $656.71)
AAstor33 posts small blind (1)
RollinHand posts big blind (2)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RollinHand [ 9c, 9s ]
joshinu calls (2)
TUFFROCK1 calls (2)
madewell111 calls (2)
AnChac_hehe calls (2)
AAstor33 calls (1)
RollinHand raises (13) to 15
joshinu folds.
TUFFROCK1 calls (13)
madewell111 calls (13)
AnChac_hehe calls (13)
AAstor33 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3s, 8s, 4d ]
RollinHand bets (40)
TUFFROCK1 raises (100) to 100
madewell111 folds.
AnChac_hehe folds.
TUFFROCK1: i'll show u
RollinHand folds.

Do I check the flop here? I expected to take down the pot on this flop since I'm not giving much credit to the limp callers but maybe I should?
Do I fold QQ here too?

Thanks and oh, I can't get the pokerhand.org converter to work. When I click on "view in forum layout" the box only shows a url link to the website and not the HH.

Rob
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Old 10-29-2005, 08:41 AM
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Default Re: 99 Raised multiway pot

I also problems with this situation. I often think I would have been better off betting smaller amount pre flop, say $6-$8 or maybe even limping. If I had bet $13 pre flop then maybe I would try a $25 bet on the flop but then am I making it worth while for the draws that are out? What do others think ? Are you more likely to be bullied off the hand with weaker bets? If I did bet $40 on flop and was raised $60 more then I would find it hard to fold, close my eyes, call and hope they are on a flush draw, not saying this is the right thing to do, just showing how much trouble I get into here. Ofcourse, a read on the players would help here, but I assume we know nothing. Definetly interested to hear how some better players would play this
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Old 10-29-2005, 01:24 PM
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Default Re: 99 Raised multiway pot

The reason I raised to $15 was to try and take it down preflop, I thought that would be enough.
If I bet the flop I don't think I can bet any less then $40. Betting into that field also showed alot of strenght IMO. They don't know I have 99, I might aswell have KK so I don't think anyone would try to bully me of my hand, or would they?

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Ps: Can anyone sort out my pokerhand.org problem?
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Old 10-29-2005, 01:28 PM
lautzutao lautzutao is offline
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Default Re: 99 Raised multiway pot

If you've never seen villian make a move that strong without a real hand you're probably correct in folding.

What have you seen from him in the past. Could you see him making a move that strong with just an 8? Have you seen him limp big pocket pairs before?

EDIT: What's your pokerhand problem?
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Old 10-29-2005, 01:42 PM
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Default Re: 99 Raised multiway pot

Havn't played with him before and I havn't seen him do anything weird yet since this is the first orbit on the table for me. I wish the 8 was a 9, that would make things easier. :-D

My pokerhand.org problem, well I dunno how to get the converter to work so I can get the BB code. I copied the HH, pasted it and added it to the database, but when I click on the "View in forum layout" button this is all I get: "( handed) pokerhand.org hand converter
Final Pot: "
It doesn't convert the hand, dunno what I'm doing wrong.
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Old 10-29-2005, 03:44 PM
afreeman afreeman is offline
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Default Re: 99 Raised multiway pot

Pair o' nines is a mediocre hand that has limited opportunities for improvement. Plus, in this case, you'll be in shitty position for the rest of the round.

I'm a full ring player, but facing 5 limpers without a read from the BB, I would be C/C'ing to the flop and playing this mainly for set value.
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Old 10-29-2005, 03:51 PM
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Default Re: 99 Raised multiway pot

Don't raise 99 out of position preflop. Check and try to hit a set or play a small pot with it as an overpair. Preflop is where you got into trouble.

Ryan
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Old 10-29-2005, 04:00 PM
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Default Re: 99 Raised multiway pot

I dunno about everyone else but I think if that guy was not a Good player - I would have went over the top of him and just push my chips in. U got the over pair - if he hit a set - he would slow play with this board and put u all on turn. Really looks like he hit the 8 and wanna take the pot down right here. If he was a tight player - he would have reraised preflop with a good hand - probably what he wanted to do with an early limp. If he was a loose player then you never now - he might have hit two shitty pairs but you can never be sure in this situation - I think you have take control and push -- if he had crap he fold --- if he had the goods - you wanna make sure this loose player knows he can make that same move with a crap hand. I think u had to take a chance here or make a stand and let peeps know they cant come over the top of you like that.
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Old 10-29-2005, 04:12 PM
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Default Re: 99 Raised multiway pot

But in general - I wouldnt raise with 99 preflop out of position like that espeically if it's the kinda game where lots of peeps limps then call big raises with garbage. In those games - I take a flop and try to catch a set before committing myself or do a pot sweetner raise like to 7 bucks --- and you also get someone with a good hand a chance to pop it preflop ---- then you can call to try to crack a good hand or fold --- at least you know where you stand preflop at that point.

1/2 NL is a sick game - always try to get ur info quick and cheap always!
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Old 10-30-2005, 01:48 AM
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Default Re: 99 Raised multiway pot

Thanks alot guys, I appreciate the input and advice!
This hand took place right after I mucked those 99's.

Seat 1: TUFFROCK1 ( $302.15 )
Seat 2: madewell111 ( $200.50 )
Seat 3: AnChac_hehe ( $87.85 )
Seat 4: AAstor33 ( $123.75 )
Seat 6: joshinu ( $654.71 )
Seat 5: RollinHand ( $163.15 )
RollinHand posts small blind [$1].
joshinu posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RollinHand [ 9h Kc ]
TUFFROCK1 calls [$2].
madewell111 calls [$2].
AnChac_hehe calls [$2].
AAstor33 folds.
RollinHand: yeah lol thanks for showing
RollinHand calls [$1].
joshinu checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5h, Qd, 7c ]
RollinHand checks.
joshinu checks.
TUFFROCK1 bets [$9.50].
madewell111 calls [$9.50].
AnChac_hehe calls [$9.50].
RollinHand folds.
joshinu folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7h ]
TUFFROCK1 is all-In.
madewell111 is all-In.
RollinHand: lmao
AnChac_hehe could not respond in time.(disconnected)
** Dealing River ** [ 9d ]
TUFFROCK1 shows [ Qs, Ac ] two pairs, queens and sevens.
madewell111 shows [ Kd, Kh ] two pairs, kings and sevens.
AnChac_hehe doesn't show [ 2s, 5s ] two pairs, sevens and fives.
TUFFROCK1 wins $101.65 from side pot #2 with two pairs, queens and sevens.
madewell111 wins $376.90 from side pot #1 with two pairs, kings and sevens.
madewell111 wins $36.60 from the main pot with two pairs, kings and sevens.

Nh! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Cheers!
Rob
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