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Old 09-12-2005, 02:22 PM
DrunkHamster DrunkHamster is offline
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Default JKo hand, help me...

I have no real reads, but none of the villains seemed particularly out of order so far.

I have KJo in MP3. UTG limps, folded to me, I raise, both blinds and UTG call. Flop is AK5 rainbow, checked to me, I bet. All call. Turn is 2, completing the rainbow. Checked to me, what to do?

Crap, edited to say this is .5/1 at Titan poker. Its a pretty small site, has 2 games going at this limit, mainly regulars playing.
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Old 09-12-2005, 02:34 PM
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Default Re: JKo hand, help me...

I'de check hoping to catch a J or K on the river. Can't beleive you're ahead here and doubt anyone would fold an Ace.
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Old 09-12-2005, 02:35 PM
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Default Re: JKo hand, help me...

Check and reevalute the river. 3 opponents called your flop bet and while you may have the best hand, it's a fairly drawless board and you're basically hoping they have QJ/QT/JT/5x/worse king. If you bet they will fold only if they have nothing and call/raise if they have you beat (and it's rare you are ahead of all 3 here). You'll get to watch them on the river and reevalute whether you want to see the showdown or not.
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Old 09-12-2005, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: JKo hand, help me...

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Can't beleive you're ahead here and doubt anyone would fold an Ace.

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This is a key point. Anyone who's willing to play an ace against you preflop is going to showdown against you when an ace flops. If you lost to the rivered straight or 2-pair because you checked the turn - well, that's poker.
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Old 09-12-2005, 02:41 PM
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Default Re: JKo hand, help me...

Would you call a bet on the river though? In case a rag hits? At these limits I doubt they'll bluff and even if the one betting out does the one calling might have an ace? What do you do when the river gets checked through again?
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Old 09-12-2005, 02:52 PM
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Would you call a bet on the river though? In case a rag hits? At these limits I doubt they'll bluff and even if the one betting out does the one calling might have an ace? What do you do when the river gets checked through again?

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Reads simplify this a lot.

With none, it depends on the action here. I might fire on the river if it was checked to me 2 streets in a row, but it's an extremely thin value bet (more likely I would check behind, but would bet any ace - even A2o).

If the action on the river was bet/call/call, I'd have to dump it if I gave my opponents any credit. If it was check/check/bet I might call as at least 2 opponents have shown weakness and I showed weakness on the previous street. If it was bet/fold/fold I'd have to call.
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Old 09-12-2005, 02:57 PM
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Default Re: JKo hand, help me...

Another point to think about re checking behind on the turn is that there are no overcards that can hurt you, so giving a free card isn't as dangerous as it might normally be.

I agree with everybody else to check here.
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Old 09-12-2005, 03:01 PM
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Default Re: JKo hand, help me...

OK, I've been a proper idiot here and got the action wrong [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
There was actually a cold caller after me as well, on the button. This changes things a fair bit - I would definitely have checked behind here too. How would you change your advice having someone behind you?
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Old 09-12-2005, 03:04 PM
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Default Re: JKo hand, help me...

I would still check, now there are 4 opponents who were not scared of a mostly drawless flop. You represented the ace by raising preflop and betting the flop and no one flinched. Check and see what happens.
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