Nasty AJo hand, after posting in CO

DrunkHamster · #1 08-03-2005, 03:43 PM

OK, obviously I just sat down, so I have no reads. However, bear in mind this is a typical .5/1 table.

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
2 folds, UTG+2 raises, 3 folds, Hero (poster) calls, 3 folds.

Well, I have a fairly decent hand, possibly dominated,although for 1 more bet I don't really want to fold.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+2 bets, Hero...

OK, so I flopped an A, the flop is monotone, and I get bet into. What would you guys do?

aK13 · #2 08-03-2005, 03:48 PM

call call call.

EDIT: That is if no spades drop.

GTSamIAm · #3 08-03-2005, 03:49 PM

I might 3-bet pf because I posted so I could get it heads up. Raise flop.

DrunkHamster · #4 08-03-2005, 03:57 PM

What could he have, raising in UTG+2, that I beat but would still pay off? ATs is about all I can think of. If he has AK,AQ,AA,KK, or 2 spades I am sunk, and he will 3 bet me. If he has JJ,TT,KQ,KJ,KT, he is going to back off very fast to a flop raise, and probably fold the turn. Either way, I think raising the flop is wrong. This seemed to me a standard WA/WB, so I called.

McGahee · #5 08-03-2005, 03:59 PM

Raise or fold on a [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]? I'm thinking raise.

Chuckles1248 · #6 08-03-2005, 04:02 PM

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What could he have, raising in UTG+2, that I beat but would still pay off? ATs is about all I can think of. If he has AK,AQ,AA,KK, or 2 spades I am sunk, and he will 3 bet me. If he has JJ,TT,KQ,KJ,KT, he is going to back off very fast to a flop raise, and probably fold the turn. Either way, I think raising the flop is wrong. This seemed to me a standard WA/WB, so I called.

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GT is saying re-raise preflop, not raise the flop.

hold_em · #7 08-03-2005, 04:06 PM

i see what you are saying, but i raise the flop. check behind on the turn, bet call the river(assuming no more spades). If a spade comes check fold. IMHO.

imported_The Vibesman · #8 08-03-2005, 04:07 PM

I think I'd just call down here unless a fourth spade fell. Some hands he has beat you, but some don't. He could have JJ or QQ w/ one spade. ATs and KQs are other possibilities. I don't see much value in raising, weaker hands will fold and stronger hands will call or raise.

DrunkHamster · #9 08-03-2005, 04:08 PM

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Raise flop.

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I take his point about 3 betting preflop, but I think AJo is a little to weak to try an isolation play, especially if we don't know if the raiser is sane or not.

GTSamIAm · #10 08-03-2005, 04:09 PM

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What could he have, raising in UTG+2, that I beat but would still pay off? ATs is about all I can think of. If he has AK,AQ,AA,KK, or 2 spades I am sunk, and he will 3 bet me. If he has JJ,TT,KQ,KJ,KT, he is going to back off very fast to a flop raise, and probably fold the turn. Either way, I think raising the flop is wrong. This seemed to me a standard WA/WB, so I called.

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GT is saying re-raise preflop, not raise the flop.

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I said raise both. Preflop, I'll invest another SB to try and get it heads up. On the flop, I want to take the pot or get out now. It is likely he has me beat. If he doesn't, I need to charge him to draw to a flush. How strong do you anticipate villain to play back if I raise? I don't like a call down because you usually aren't way ahead. You're either slightly ahead or way behind.