ZeroRake...All You need to know, the truth Uncovered!

[Stew]

Registered through: GoDaddy.com
Domain Name: ZERORAKE.COM
Created on: 15-Mar-04
Expires on: 15-Mar-05
Last Updated on: 23-Mar-04
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.ACTIONPOKER.COM
NS2.ACTIONPOKER.COM
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The domain name was recently registered as can be seen above.
Zerorake.com uses actionpoker.com for its domain servers. If you look
up the registrant of actionpoker.com you will see that it is exactly
the same as pokerspot.com. Pokerspot.com was Dutch's old venture where
he cheated everyone out of there money.
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Registrant:
Action Poker
PO BOX 2372
St Johns, St Johns 2372
Antigua and Barbuda

Registered through: GoDaddy.com
Domain Name: ACTIONPOKER.COM
Created on: 12-Oct-99
Expires on: 12-Oct-05
Last Updated on: 20-Feb-04

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Registrant: Make this info private
PokerSpot International (24759286O)
No. 6 Temple Street
P.o. Box 2372
St. Johns,
AN
No Valid City, No Valid State
Phone: 999 999 9999
Fax: 999 999 9999

Domain Name: POKERSPOT.COM

Administrative Contact , Technical Contact :
Boyd, Robert
(RB24698)
rboyd@POKERSPOT.COM
No. 6 Temple Street
P.o. Box 2372 St. Johns N/A 00000,
AN
Phone: (650) 562-1900
Fax: (801) 749-1553

Record expires on 16-Aug-2004
Record created on 16-Aug-1999
Database last updated on 07-Jul-2004

[Inthacup]

That's very interesting stuff Stew. Anyone care to email zerorake and see what they have to say?


Cup

[LikesToLose]

Great info.

Has anyone played both Pokerspot and Zerorake? Does the software seem to be the same? Probably impossible to tell since the graphics and color schemes would be changed/disguised/updated.

[TM1212]

The software used at pokerspot is completely different then zero rakes. I think Boyd a little smarter then using the identical software on a new site. Zero rakes software is identical to that used at superior poker. I dont think there any correlation between the two, probably just the same software.
But this information you have uncovered is very interesting. It really won't surprise me if zero rake is boyd's site, its identical the business model the he had written at his site. Theres probably no way they'll admit if boyd is really running the site, as no one will trust the site. All I know is until boyd lanches his site, or until some other evidence comes up regarding zerorake there is no way i will put a penny on it.
Even if its not Boyd the reality of a zero rake site actually working ou is highly doubtful. They need tens of thousands of users to break even. To much risked invovled in this site.

[LikesToLose]

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Even if its not Boyd the reality of a zero rake site actually working ou is highly doubtful. They need tens of thousands of users to break even. To much risked invovled in this site.



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I came up with a brilliant way to get a no-rake type of site off the ground. Then as I thought a little more, I realized it wouldn't work.

The only way I see is if a site were setup as a skin to another site with a decent amount of traffice already on it. But then again, what site would allow a no-rake skin?

Too bad.

[BreakEvenPlayer]

I think the best idea would be to clutter the table and lobby with banner ads from all kinds of sites. Something like a rotating banner on the table. You need visitors before you are going to get sponsors though.

[Mike Haven]

Registrant: Make this info private
TwoPlusTwo Publishing
No. 6 Temple Street
P.o. Box 2372
St. Johns,
AN
No Valid City, No Valid State
Phone: (650) 562-****
Fax: (801) 749-****

Domain Name: TWOPLUSTWO.COM

Administrative Contact , Technical Contact :
Boyd, Robert (RB24698)
rboyd@TWOPLUSTWO.COM
No. 6 Temple Street
P.o. Box 2372 St. Johns N/A 00000,
AN
Phone: (650) 562-****
Fax: (801) 749-****

Record expires on 22-Jul-2004
Record created on 22-Jul-1999
Database last updated on 21-Jul-2004

[MS Sunshine]

Good work Stew.

After all the spamming and denying that Dutch has anything to do with the site, and the one weak game, I wonder what's going to happen when this site goes bellyup? Is ZeroRake using player's deposits to fund their business plan? Let's not forget about using the fraudulant dollars scam. Not that you need reminding about any kind of scam.

Dutch you're scum. It doesn't surprise me at all that you would start a new site and deny have anything to do with it. For all the new posters that think that Russ got a bad deal from us here when PokerSpot went out of business, this is how this guy operates. Lying is just SOP for him. Pretty soon he will have another positive spin online article explaining how the negative posts here, from affiliates, killed his idea to give the players a fairer break on the cost of poker. Maybe ESPN can do another segment on your winning poker ways by intimidating world-class players with your chip shuffling.

MS Sunshine

[Stew]

Hey Mike,

I'm not really sure what your point on this is but here's the info on twoplustwo when I ran it:


Registrant:
Two Plus Two Publishing


Address:
226 Garfield Dr.
Henderson, NV 89014
US


First Registered:
June 08, 1997


Last Updated:
July 21, 2004


Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Weinstock, Charles B. (CBW2) weinstock@CONJELCO.COM
CONJELCO
1460 Bennington Ave, PA 15217
US
412-621-6040 fax: 412-621-6214


Name Servers:
NS.RACKSPACE.COM 207.235.16.2
NS2.RACKSPACE.COM 207.71.44.121



Information Source:
Network Solutions

[Just The Facts]

I'm glad they will listen to you. This information has been obvious since day one.