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Old 02-22-2005, 09:26 PM
sublime sublime is offline
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Default 55 and heavy preflop action

basically just sat down. after 1 orbit the table is without a doubt loose, and seemed passive. opponents are unknown to me.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero calls, MP calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (14 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero?

whats my plan here?
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Old 02-22-2005, 09:33 PM
arkady arkady is offline
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Default Re: 55 and heavy preflop action

bet, because button might raise this flop with a big A, thus pushing out SB making your life easier. If its 2 more back to u, fold, cuz ur outgunned.

if that happens, i just might call down assuming no A or K comes. or i might fold the turn ui.
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Old 02-22-2005, 09:34 PM
DrGutshot DrGutshot is offline
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Default Re: 55 and heavy preflop action

i hate this game...

check, and call if it's one bet back to you (hoping to spike a 5), but fold for more.

Hard to give an answer for the turn because of all the different possibilities of what could happen, but I think I'd fold to a single bet, given that I didn't hit my miracle.


-DrG
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Old 02-22-2005, 10:14 PM
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Default Re: 55 and heavy preflop action

I like arkady's line best.
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Old 02-22-2005, 10:23 PM
sam h sam h is offline
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Default Re: 55 and heavy preflop action

Bet.

If button raises and SB CCs, call and check the turn, deciding what to do depending on the action.

If button raises and SB 3Bs, fold.

If button raises and SB folds, call and prepare to go to showdown unless an A hits.
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Old 02-22-2005, 10:27 PM
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Default Re: 55 and heavy preflop action

is that preflop limp standard?

I'd lead the flop and expect the turn and river to be pretty interesting.
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Old 02-22-2005, 10:37 PM
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Default Re: 55 and heavy preflop action

What's up with the PF limp?

I check here and will fold if the button bets and the SB raises and will call if the button bets and the SB calls and figure out what to do on the turn.
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Old 02-23-2005, 06:22 AM
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Default Re: 55 and heavy preflop action

to evan and rory:

What's up with the PF limp?

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after 1 orbit the table is without a doubt loose, and seemed passive

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in one orbit i had seen most preflop activity consist of 2-3 limps and a complete, followed by a check (with me folding of course) so basically what i am saying is, the PF limp is by no means standard but i expexted to see the flop for one bet with a few others and get paid off nice if i hit. of course, because i limped, these guys took thier [censored] pills and started a war.

i checked the button bet and the SB called. the turn was an ace and i check/folded to two bets. if the turn had been a blank, i wouls have been even more confused [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
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Old 02-23-2005, 09:41 AM
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Default Re: 55 and heavy preflop action

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bet, because button might raise this flop with a big A, thus pushing out SB making your life easier. If its 2 more back to u, fold, cuz ur outgunned.

if that happens, i just might call down assuming no A or K comes. or i might fold the turn ui.

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Seriously has anyone actually seen someone fold on the flop in these games after 3betting PF when the flop comes paired lowcards, am I playing another game??

FWIW check and call 1 is my plan, inspect the turn and go from there. If it's 2 or more fold, you might be ahead but it's going to be expensive, with a fair chance of being drawn out, to find out.
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Old 02-23-2005, 10:45 AM
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Default Re: 55 and heavy preflop action

Is it considered too weak-tight to just fold this pre-flop after your initial call is raised and re-raised?
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