KQo - Not interesting but wondered.

POKhER · #1 12-12-2005, 10:59 AM

So buttons notes are limited to say the least:
"Bluff betted flop HU from BB into UTG(Pot steal, Then called a raise with overcards to the raggy low flop.

=Bet/Called flop HU into UTG limper W/T7o on 4329Q board. Checked Turn/River(Got checked though)"

So basically he's attempted to pot steal by betting flop with junk... thats all i have on him. Rest of the hands are datamined.

Stats show: 24/13/3.2 over 300 hands (4-6players filtered).

SB is: 60/16/.7 only 30 hands though.



Main concerns are my fishy 2back to me call... (Admitedly i think i thought i was vs SB/BB rather than button so thought i had position LOL... Noob error as dad was asking me about PC crap).

And the flop call... do you call or fold it? We got a gutshot but will it be raised?

Turn seems standard and river.

Absolute Limit Hold'em Ring - $1/$2 Stakes (6 handed)

Preflop: Hero is LP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, Button raises, Small blind raises, 1 fold, Hero calls, Button calls

Flop: (13.00 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Small blind bets, Hero calls, Button raises, Small blind calls, Hero calls

Turn: (9.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Small blind checks, Hero checks, Button bets, Small blind calls, Hero calls

River: (12.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Small blind checks, Hero checks, Button bets, Small blind folds, Hero folds

philnewall · #2 12-12-2005, 11:03 AM

Flop call is fine with gutshot + backdoor draw..uh yeah...standard.

POKhER · #3 12-12-2005, 11:03 AM

preflop?

philnewall · #4 12-12-2005, 11:09 AM

Ummm..can't be a huge mistake calling the extra 2 bets, I'd probably fold if I had KJ or something...but with KQ seems close. BTW whats your screenname on abs? PM me it if you like. I've played a lot of hands in that game and I probably will recognise the name. My name's wearethefall

POKhER · #5 12-12-2005, 11:11 AM

I dont have you in my PT Db and i datamine a fair bit. You dont play often? 1/2 and .5/1 i've datamined a fair bit of(and played).

Dont recognise your name, I may PM you in a bit with it. Not sure i want to give my ABS name out lol.

Cheers.

philnewall · #6 12-12-2005, 11:13 AM

I stopped playing the 1/2 soon as they switched to .50 rake for the bonus. Now doing the 3/6 and 5/10. How can you datamine abs?

PokerBob · #7 12-12-2005, 02:50 PM

fold when it is 2 back to you preflop.

Cancuk · #8 12-12-2005, 02:57 PM

Flop call's fine. Preflop is iffy.

Am I missing something? I must be..why are you caling the turn?

#9 12-12-2005, 03:21 PM

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Am I missing something? I must be..why are you caling the turn?

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We have a gutshot, and getting 11.5:1 to call and close the action.

POKhER · #10 12-12-2005, 03:50 PM

Cheers JBA - Good analysis, I need to learn/attempt these calculations often so i can establish +EV and -EV calls as im pretty rusty. I guess WTO will teach me when i re-read it.

ANyhow, So we establish the flop call is marginal yet +EV. and the turn call is pretty standard with a gutshot(Pretty sure my outs are clean).

River is easy fold?

Preflop though, Is it stupid to call 2cold with KQo? it felt bad but as i had invested it was either a loss or 2more bets and pray for a good flop(lol).