A4s - what do you think of this?

Brian · #1 07-13-2004, 05:55 PM

Party 5/10. Just sat down and posted my BB, and I'm dealt A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. EP and MP limp, MP2 raises, rest fold, I call, limpers call. 4 to the Flop, 4bb.

Flop: Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

It's checked to MP2 who bets. I raise.

-Brian

Tosh · #2 07-13-2004, 05:59 PM

Yeah I like the raise here.

Joe Tall · #3 07-13-2004, 06:00 PM

I make this raise when I know I can get MP2 heads up, which is often with only two other opponetns. The times you pick up your run offs or 2-pair/trips will make up for the times you get cold callers and a 3-bet.

Added: Therefore, I like it.

Peace,
Joe Tall

Bob T. · #4 07-13-2004, 06:05 PM

I like it.

Brian · #5 07-13-2004, 06:38 PM

Well, you guys didn't make this very interesting.

The limpers folded and MP2 called the raise.

Turn: K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

I bet, MP2 folded. Would you guys have bet again if the K on the Turn weren't a Diamond? In my experience, medium pocket pairs won't fold despite 2 overcards on board, and now AK beats me. However, I am getting pretty good odds on the bet hoping he will fold, and I of course have plenty of outs even without the diamond.

-Brian

joker122 · #6 07-13-2004, 06:55 PM

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...and I of course have plenty of outs even without the diamond.

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Care to name a few [all] of them?

Brian · #7 07-13-2004, 06:59 PM

Hi joker,

Against AK, I am now of course drawing very thin. But I have 5 outs versus hands like JJ and TT, and I'm still ahead of AJ and AT. And 5 outs is plenty in a 6 big bet pot, where I'd have to call a bet if I checked anyways, and theres some chance he may fold or that I have the best hand. This is assuming the K on the Turn isn't a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

-Brian

devinthedude · #8 07-13-2004, 07:02 PM

Like the play on all streets. I think you have to bet the turn against standard party opponents whether it is a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or not. If you get raised when the non-diamond hits you have a pretty easy fold. If I get called, I'm probably check-folding the river unless I improve.